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david.beholder
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Postby david.beholder; Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:15 am Re: Improvements!

Yorrrrrr wrote:I wouldn't mind either. You can release a CPU eating monster now, but it's as top quality as it can be. But in a few years the CPU usage wouldn't be as high and it'll still be top quality. Just like DIVA. That synth doesn't even bother my PC anymore.

Agree on every word.
Waiting to see Threadripper 1950 runnng 30 Divas playing 4 note chords with 4 stack notes on each withou hiccup. And in 3-4 years 1950 would be in average, not top performers.
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fluffy_little_something
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:41 am Re: Improvements!

Yesterday I played around with the Diva demo and noticed that when using long envelope release times, Diva's CPU load continues sky-high for more than half a minute after the sound level has already dropped to inaudible levels (I turned my amp and speakers to max, there was nothing anymore except for the noise floor). Then after those 30-40 seconds the CPU load suddenly drops fast (within 3 seconds or so) to idle level. Wouldn't it make sense to cut the processing as soon as there is no audible volume anymore? (I mean, we are not talking about envelopes with many stages, where the volume may come and go repeatedly, or looped.) I think it might cut Diva's CPU load considerably, especially with pads. I assume the long-lasting CPU load comes from the function used to calculate the release tail, continuing to calculate precise values that have long become irrelevant, though.
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david.beholder
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Postby david.beholder; Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:00 pm Re: Improvements!

Ableton 10 is going to be 64-bit only. Isn't it time for U-he to walk the same way? When major DAW with such a market influence like Ableton is doing it it's clear signal that 32-bit is dead.
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Urs
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Postby Urs; Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:43 pm Re: Improvements!

david.beholder wrote:Ableton 10 is going to be 64-bit only. Isn't it time for U-he to walk the same way? When major DAW with such a market influence like Ableton is doing it it's clear signal that 32-bit is dead.

NI have been 64 bit only or a while.

Our survey from earlier this year shows that something like 10% of our user base still require 32 bit versions. From a very pragmatic point of view it's easier to just compile for both 32 and 64 bit than to deal with tens or hundreds of upset customers.

However, 32 bit VST2 on Mac is slowly fading out anyway because some features of the new preset browser simply don't look as good (I think text input looks dodgy, dunno, haven't seen it)
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david.beholder
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Postby david.beholder; Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:04 am Re: Improvements!

Urs wrote:Our survey from earlier this year shows that something like 10% of our user base still require 32 bit versions. From a very pragmatic point of view it's easier to just compile for both 32 and 64 bit than to deal with tens or hundreds of upset customers.

I think this number has been changed a bit (pun intended) because there are no angry comments from 32-bit users under my post yet :) May be survey was biased in a way?

Urs wrote:However, 32 bit VST2 on Mac is slowly fading out anyway because some features of the new preset browser simply don't look as good (I think text input looks dodgy, dunno, haven't seen it)

It's actually THE news. I thought nobody is using 32-bit on Mac.
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