Sine Sine Everywhere a Sine

[Teksonik]

Yes but the inter-frequency transformation must be oversampled at Nyquist or you'll get aliasing on the post amplitude time domains.

[billstei]

Then it could be either #2 or #3 above, or possibly #4 if the secret has been partially discovered, and I would only need to be killed partially, not completely.

Maybe this is helpful? http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219409

So maybe it's a little of all of #1, 2, 3 and AAAAAAGHH NINJAS

Yup, that pretty much makes #2 the answer (for SpectroBlend specifically), and therefore is, as Urs states, "...a form of granular synthesis where each grain is obtained from a spectrum...". I suppose I could wonder how often a new grain is calculated while warping, but I have to wonder why I would wander off wondering about warping when I wonder of what usefulness negative partial values are to my resynthesis efforts. It would appear that negative values are generating a cosine, but sine phases other than 0 and 90 are not possible. Not that they should be, but I was just wondering.

[SolarRainUK]

Yes but the inter-frequency transformation must be oversampled at Nyquist or you'll get aliasing on the post amplitude time domains.

Bah..I was going to say that.

[billstei]

I don't care what anybody says as long as there are no ninjas sneaking up on me.

[bmrzycki]

I don't care what anybody says as long as there are no ninjas sneaking up on me.

They're probably all too busy right now getting ready for this year's Ninja Parade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtR2m20C2YM

[billstei]

While the ninjas were out parading, I managed to get a proof of concept put together...

I decided to try to resynthesize the word "zebra" as spoken by Urs at the beginning of the Zebra Oscillator Part 1 tutorial on YouTube. This was completely done in Octave, but the scripts will probably run in MATLAB too. I'm not sure how happy I am about them, but it's just an alpha's-beta-than-nothing version. The patch uses MSEG1 to sweep through the Waves, and I tried to get ENV1 to close right at the end so that the final Wave16 doesn't sound too long. Anyway, it sounds a lot better than I thought it would. Keep in mind that the way Urs pronounces the word "zebra" is not like us Europeans who got lost on the other side of the Atlantic, so there is no "eeeeeee" like we just went for a fun ride on a black horse with white stripes (or is it white with black stripes?).

I Am Zebra

[jupiter8]

I remember reading about this technique in the late 80ies. The Synclavier did that IIRC. Obviously i could'nt afford one at the time but i was really curious about it. Now i can try it. Now that's progress. Took me 20 years but i got there in the end.

EDIT: I'm curious as to why you went the FFT route. What was the thinking there ?

[billstei]

After sittin a spell and thinkin bout stuff, the thing missing is the "B" sound, which doesn't have much BAH to it, and I think that's because I chose 80 Hz as the lowest frequency represented by the harmonic spectrum (Urs voice resonates at 80 Hz as he says the "Z"). If I had gone a bit lower I probably would have got more B blast.

[billstei]

I remember reading about this technique in the late 80ies. The Synclavier did that IIRC. Obviously i could'nt afford one at the time but i was really curious about it. Now i can try it. Now that's progress. Took me 20 years but i got there in the end.

EDIT: I'm curious as to why you went the FFT route. What was the thinking there ?

Duh, because I have to maintain my public image as a "friggin geek".

[jupiter8]

I remember reading about this technique in the late 80ies. The Synclavier did that IIRC. Obviously i could'nt afford one at the time but i was really curious about it. Now i can try it. Now that's progress. Took me 20 years but i got there in the end.

EDIT: I'm curious as to why you went the FFT route. What was the thinking there ?

Duh, because I have to maintain my public image as a "friggin geek".

That's a good reason.

[billstei]

@jupiter8

Speaking of code I'm not happy about, I take it that in Wav2Zebra Zebra Script compilation you did this:

float Wave[128];
Wave[0]=0.0;
Wave[1]=0.1;
Wave[2]=0.2;
etc.

instead of this:

float Wave[128] = { 0.0, 0.1, 0.2, etc };

because of a script compiler bug. Like I did.

[Howard]

I Am Zebra

Here turned into a speaking patch. Actually sounds like Urs himself:
http://www.box.net/shared/l2s1306cy4

We have 4 oscillators, so with a bit of jiggery-pokery, we should be able to get a few more words into a single patch. Loving it!

[jupiter8]

@jupiter8

Speaking of code I'm not happy about, I take it that in Wav2Zebra Zebra Script compilation you did this:

float Wave[128];
Wave[0]=0.0;
Wave[1]=0.1;
Wave[2]=0.2;
etc.

instead of this:

float Wave[128] = { 0.0, 0.1, 0.2, etc };

because of a script compiler bug. Like I did.

I did the first one but can't really remember why. It was the easiest and only way i knew so.....

[billstei]

@jupiter8

Speaking of code I'm not happy about, I take it that in Wav2Zebra Zebra Script compilation you did this:

float Wave[128];
Wave[0]=0.0;
Wave[1]=0.1;
Wave[2]=0.2;
etc.

instead of this:

float Wave[128] = { 0.0, 0.1, 0.2, etc };

because of a script compiler bug. Like I did.

I did the first one but can't really remember why. It was the easiest and only way i knew so.....

Okay, bugs are attracted to me -- I filed a bug report on the Techy forum for Urs, and in the mean time keep using the longer-winded method.

[billstei]

I Am Zebra

Here turned into a speaking patch. Actually sounds like Urs himself:
http://www.box.net/shared/l2s1306cy4

We have 4 oscillators, so with a bit of jiggery-pokery, we should be able to get a few more words into a single patch. Loving it!

Yup. Your patch is uber cool.