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Jedinhopy
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Postby Jedinhopy; Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:49 pm Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

I meant, is it possible to use all the effects from DIVA on any sounds like using a vst effect plugin?
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bmrzycki
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Postby bmrzycki; Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:32 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

As of today, no.
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Postby Jedinhopy; Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:19 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

And if i happen to like the effects from HIVE.
Then i can't use them elsewhere.

Since both Diva and Hive has many presets.
Those effect settings that are designed for specific synth sounds could be used on instruments that is outside the U-HE paradigm.
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Postby murnau; Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:39 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Afair Urs promised audio-input coming one day.
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Postby .maki; Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:08 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

maybe check out uhbik? It's basically the pimped versions of the synth fx.
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Postby Jedinhopy; Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:09 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Suloo wrote:maybe check out uhbik? It's basically the pimped versions of the synth fx.
can uhbik use effect settings from DIVA synth presets?
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Postby .maki; Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:27 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

no not directly, but you might be able to recreate them, although not all of them.
What do you have in mind specifically?

for reverb there is uhbik-A
für delay uhbik-d
for phaser uhbik-p

chorus & rotary might not be possible.

chorus might be possible with very short delay times.
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Postby omiroad; Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:20 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

For analog filters you might like Cytomic The Drop.
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Postby operator; Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:05 am Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Suloo wrote:no not directly, but you might be able to recreate them, although not all of them.
What do you have in mind specifically?

for reverb there is uhbik-A
für delay uhbik-d
for phaser uhbik-p

chorus & rotary might not be possible.

chorus might be possible with very short delay times.


Uhbik-F is a Chorus/Flanger effect... and with Uhbik-T you get a rotary effect if you use the channel offset... 8)
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Postby Kr3eM; Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:03 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Jedinhopy wrote:And if i happen to like the effects from HIVE.
Then i can't use them elsewhere.

Since both Diva and Hive has many presets.
Those effect settings that are designed for specific synth sounds could be used on instruments that is outside the U-HE paradigm.


I emailed the U-he support about this, probably over a year ago.
Well, kind of asked the same question. I wanted to have the option to have access to the effects with audio in (no filters) since I personally records most stuff dry, especially when working with alot of randomness. To have stuff recorded with long decay/tail effects creates a big problem later in the edit process when selecting and discarding various parts.

Zebra is brilliant in this case since I can recreate any settings in Zebrify. The same goes now for Xfer Serum...perhaps with others to like NI stuff but I wouldn't know.

The answer at that time was simply a no with a comment that more or less said that if this was a problem for me then don't use the effects.
I have to admit to be quite dissapointed, mostly since they have the abillity to solve this 'problem'. There's no real need to make any extra effort on GUI or anything else, just make it a VST that recives audio input and thats about it really. In my mind it sounds so simple but I suspect the reality is not.

I guess one sounds like spoiled brat complaining about this but it's very hard and even impossible in some cases to recreate the effects in the U-he synths (got them all except Filterscape).

...since the effects have a unique sound it's really hard to be at peace with that when one are in the creative mindset and all of the ambition and passion that goes with it.
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Postby .maki; Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:37 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Kr3eM wrote: There's no real need to make any extra effort on GUI or anything else, just make it a VST that recives audio input and thats about it really. In my mind it sounds so simple but I suspect the reality is not.


you mean like a dummy Diva that only has fx working and audio input?
That would look half baked.

Sure there would be GUI work and other stuff involved.
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Postby Kr3eM; Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:35 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Suloo wrote:
Kr3eM wrote: There's no real need to make any extra effort on GUI or anything else, just make it a VST that recives audio input and thats about it really. In my mind it sounds so simple but I suspect the reality is not.


you mean like a dummy Diva that only has fx working and audio input?
That would look half baked.

Sure there would be GUI work and other stuff involved.


Yes, you could call it a dummy Diva (or Hive, Bazille ect)...I can't see why it would look half baked, no more half baked than it does when you use the VSTi as you do now...Serum FX version looks no diffirent, and I guess the same goes for all other VSTi-FX versions like Synthmaker, Oddity2_fx, FM8...and so on...

I just thought it would be a simple way to support users with this 'need' or what you want to call it. Minimum effort for maximum need :D

I personally would take any GUI, and I mean ANY KIND of GUI, if it would give me the effects in a VST audio in format...
...seroiusly any GUI or even DAW default GUI, looks are secondary.
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Postby BDeep; Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:32 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Plus, if you have a half-decent DAW, you can still play the effect as a synth, while routing audio through it.
FM8 for example can use the incoming audio as a modulator or carrier.
Serum can record incoming audio into a wavetable.
Although that kind of functionality might be more applicable to Bazille and ACE than Diva or Hive.
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Postby dangayle; Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:42 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

BDeep wrote:Although that kind of functionality might be more applicable to Bazille and ACE than Diva or Hive.


Softube Modular has an audio-in version, it's just another cable you drag in. Wouldn't seem out of place at all if Bazille had an external audio input down next to the noise input.
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Postby joe_b; Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:18 pm Re: Is the effects from (Diva) available to be used on sounds outside the (Diva) plugin?

Since the original question has been answered, a little excursion ;)

IMHO this is the limiting factor of all sound design nowadays: Some synths have really good effects, but few of them (Repro), while some have a lot of mediocre quality (NI...). In the end i always end up using a few of the (good) internal ones, while external plugins take care of the rest. So we got a billion synths with different GUIs and different effects, resulting in a bazillion of things we have to remember. And then there's layering two different synth sounds while routing through the same effect chain. I understand why so many are into Omnisphere. It has good oscillators and filters (though not as good as U-He's) and also good effects (again not as good as Repro, but quite good) and a quite modular design. So one interface to do it all. This also attracts a lot of sound designers because they can do more complex things AND share them (try sharing a mainstage patch...). I really hope Zebra 3 will go this direction, Omnisphere needs a contender.
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