Glitches on DIVA's tracks when I bounce a project
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 27 Mar, 2017
Hello Hello ,
I'm a new DIVA users, I have bought it a few weeks ago and I have been playing with it since with great pleasure.
However, since a few days I'm a on a new tracks that needs two sets of pad (the same one but at different pitches and starting at different moment) generated by two DIVA's. I'm not sure why (the sound doesn't sounds that complex) but one pads seems to need a lot of DSP (80%) and in order to properly work with two, I had to freeze everything, that's not perfect but it works.
Once I more or less finish the draft, I switched the two DIVA in divine mode and I bounced the project. When I listened to the results I heads lots of glitches and weird noises as soon as the pads started in the tracks.
I'm quite surprised as I thought that exporting a project was pure computation and it wouldn't matter (except for the time needed to export the project) how needy the plugin was.
Does someone has an idea of what's going on?
Thank you in advance
Windows 10
i5 7600K, 4.1Ghz, 32Gb Ram
Ableton 9.7.1, RME Fireface (256 samples, I tried to export with 512 and it's the same), Latest version of DIVA in VST2 64 Bit.
I'm a new DIVA users, I have bought it a few weeks ago and I have been playing with it since with great pleasure.
However, since a few days I'm a on a new tracks that needs two sets of pad (the same one but at different pitches and starting at different moment) generated by two DIVA's. I'm not sure why (the sound doesn't sounds that complex) but one pads seems to need a lot of DSP (80%) and in order to properly work with two, I had to freeze everything, that's not perfect but it works.
Once I more or less finish the draft, I switched the two DIVA in divine mode and I bounced the project. When I listened to the results I heads lots of glitches and weird noises as soon as the pads started in the tracks.
I'm quite surprised as I thought that exporting a project was pure computation and it wouldn't matter (except for the time needed to export the project) how needy the plugin was.
Does someone has an idea of what's going on?
Thank you in advance
Windows 10
i5 7600K, 4.1Ghz, 32Gb Ram
Ableton 9.7.1, RME Fireface (256 samples, I tried to export with 512 and it's the same), Latest version of DIVA in VST2 64 Bit.
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- KVRAF
- 2085 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
That's real strange - I've a very similar setup to you (though only 8gb ram) and, like you, can sometimes struggle to get a few simultaneous Divas to play at the same time in realtime unless I switch quality to fast or draft. However (like you seem to do) when rendering down I switch everything to 'divine' and let it chug away (sometimes it'll take up to twice as long to render the track as the length of the song itself!) - but everything will render out glitch free.... so, yeah weird - as you say it's doing all the calculations 'offline' so shouldn't matter how taxing it gets with the CPU.
By 'bounce down' can I check you mean exporting the track via File -> Export Audio/Video ?
Is it definitely Diva causing it - do you have any other plugins on the same track or on the return or master track that may cause a problem (like with them being in demo mode or something like that ?)
By 'bounce down' can I check you mean exporting the track via File -> Export Audio/Video ?
Is it definitely Diva causing it - do you have any other plugins on the same track or on the return or master track that may cause a problem (like with them being in demo mode or something like that ?)
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 27 Mar, 2017
Exactmcbpete wrote:By 'bounce down' can I check you mean exporting the track via File -> Export Audio/Video ?
Everything is legit, the glitches start as soon as Diva start, you ca listen a short sample here --> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/134 ... itches.m4amcbpete wrote:Is it definitely Diva causing it - do you have any other plugins on the same track or on the return or master track that may cause a problem (like with them being in demo mode or something like that ?)
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aaron aardvark aaron aardvark https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=248508
- KVRAF
- 2665 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles
I have never used Ableton, though in Cubase you can export audio in real time as opposed to doing it faster (2X or faster). I have avoided audio glitches by exporting in real time in the past (this did not involve Diva as far as I remember, though it might have).
You can hear my original music at this link: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/defau ... dID=224436
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 27 Mar, 2017
I'll check tonight at home if it's possible on Ableton but knowing that it's impossible to listen to project without freezing the tracks (the DSP goes to 140%) wouldn't be even worse if I do real time?aaron aardvark wrote:I have never used Ableton, though in Cubase you can export audio in real time as opposed to doing it faster (2X or faster). I have avoided audio glitches by exporting in real time in the past (this did not involve Diva as far as I remember, though it might have).
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I was going to say the same thing. Some plugins, for whatever reason, don't manage well with non-real time rendering. I've had issues with Zynaptiq and GRM tools.aaron aardvark wrote:I have never used Ableton, though in Cubase you can export audio in real time as opposed to doing it faster (2X or faster). I have avoided audio glitches by exporting in real time in the past (this did not involve Diva as far as I remember, though it might have).
- KVRAF
- 3054 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
so weird..it is even getting the filter and delay fx over the glitch ...did you try to change the Buffer settings?
*never mind the skin. The settings are the same;
*never mind the skin. The settings are the same;
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- KVRAF
- 2085 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Oooh good spot I've never seen that setting before - Yeah that definitely seems a possibility !
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin
Hi mcbpete,
I'd also like to take a look at that, would it be possible for you to send us the Ableton project to support[at]u-he.com, that would be fantastic
I'd also like to take a look at that, would it be possible for you to send us the Ableton project to support[at]u-he.com, that would be fantastic
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aaron aardvark aaron aardvark https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=248508
- KVRAF
- 2665 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles
I would think the faster you export, the more CPU you are using. You are processing the data faster, so it takes more "computer power".
You can hear my original music at this link: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/defau ... dID=224436
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aaron aardvark aaron aardvark https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=248508
- KVRAF
- 2665 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles
oops, double post.
You can hear my original music at this link: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/defau ... dID=224436