Help recreating Juno 106 patch to Diva
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- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
It would be awesome if someone would recreate patch called PD Juno Warm Pad. Its in Juno 106 plugin synthesizer (trial is available). It just sounds gorgeaous, esecialy on chords, so full and organic. Im trying to recreate this in Diva, but i cant get any near it. Id be grateful for anyone who recreates this
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- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
If Diva's Chorus is too different you could try with external TAL chorus.
The sound is at 2:30 here:
https://youtu.be/Yffwl5Uaqf0
The sound is at 2:30 here:
https://youtu.be/Yffwl5Uaqf0
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- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
yep thats the patch. I also tried adding tal chorus, but it sounds very different then on Juno plugin. TAL chorus makes the sound somewhat muffled, muddy, unclear, wheres on Juno its not.Chris-S wrote:If Diva's Chorus is too different you could try with external TAL chorus.
The sound is at 2:30 here:
https://youtu.be/Yffwl5Uaqf0
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
There's not much going on in that patch from the screenshot (just a saw wave with a relatively dark filter and a little bit of filter envelope). I'd suggest:
1. Load up the Juno-60 preset from the TEMPLATES folder
2. Turn off the pulse wave, set the sub osc volume to zero
3. Turn on the Diva chorus effect or use the free TAL Chorus (with it's default settings) as mentioned by Chris-S
4. Set the LP Filter Cutoff to a value in Diva of about 65
5. Set the Env to about 45
6. By default, in Diva Env 1 = Env 2 on the Juno-60, so set Env 1 Decay and Sustain to max, play with the Attack and Release
7. Env 2 set the Attack and Sustain to zero, play with the Decay and Release
8. If it's too bassy, set the HP Filter from Boost to 0
That should get you right in the ballpark.
Notice the "Tone" knob in the VCA section is set to max (talking about the Roland plugin)? That's basically an EQ that's making the Juno plugin brighter, so you may want to use a basic Tilt style EQ after Diva also.
1. Load up the Juno-60 preset from the TEMPLATES folder
2. Turn off the pulse wave, set the sub osc volume to zero
3. Turn on the Diva chorus effect or use the free TAL Chorus (with it's default settings) as mentioned by Chris-S
4. Set the LP Filter Cutoff to a value in Diva of about 65
5. Set the Env to about 45
6. By default, in Diva Env 1 = Env 2 on the Juno-60, so set Env 1 Decay and Sustain to max, play with the Attack and Release
7. Env 2 set the Attack and Sustain to zero, play with the Decay and Release
8. If it's too bassy, set the HP Filter from Boost to 0
That should get you right in the ballpark.
Notice the "Tone" knob in the VCA section is set to max (talking about the Roland plugin)? That's basically an EQ that's making the Juno plugin brighter, so you may want to use a basic Tilt style EQ after Diva also.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The sound in the video is the non-modified patch from the 106. The OP modified the patch in his screenshot to exclude the PWM waveform and took out the amp velocity. This actually makes it even easier to recreate in Diva since in Diva the waveforms are either on or off whereas you can blend them in the Roland (like you see with the PWM wave in the default patch).Chris-S wrote:If Diva's Chorus is too different you could try with external TAL chorus.
The sound is at 2:30 here:
https://youtu.be/Yffwl5Uaqf0
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- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
Yeap and ive tried recreate that, the sound is very different.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:The sound in the video is the non-modified patch from the 106. The OP modified the patch in his screenshot to exclude the PWM waveform and took out the amp velocity. This actually makes it even easier to recreate in Diva since in Diva the waveforms are either on or off whereas you can blend them in the Roland (like you see with the PWM wave in the default patch).Chris-S wrote:If Diva's Chorus is too different you could try with external TAL chorus.
The sound is at 2:30 here:
https://youtu.be/Yffwl5Uaqf0
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- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
The sound is still like day and night. The envelope behaviour in Diva is totaly unlike in Juno 106. But ive got pretty close, although Juno 106 still sounds smoother especialy in the filter attack.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:There's not much going on in that patch from the screenshot (just a saw wave with a relatively dark filter and a little bit of filter envelope). I'd suggest:
1. Load up the Juno-60 preset from the TEMPLATES folder
2. Turn off the pulse wave, set the sub osc volume to zero
3. Turn on the Diva chorus effect or use the free TAL Chorus (with it's default settings) as mentioned by Chris-S
4. Set the LP Filter Cutoff to a value in Diva of about 65
5. Set the Env to about 45
6. By default, in Diva Env 1 = Env 2 on the Juno-60, so set Env 1 Decay and Sustain to max, play with the Attack and Release
7. Env 2 set the Attack and Sustain to zero, play with the Decay and Release
8. If it's too bassy, set the HP Filter from Boost to 0
That should get you right in the ballpark.
Notice the "Tone" knob in the VCA section is set to max (talking about the Roland plugin)? That's basically an EQ that's making the Juno plugin brighter, so you may want to use a basic Tilt style EQ after Diva also.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 14 Nov, 2015
I gave it a shot. It's not perfect, but I think it sounds close enough.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/cas2kp
https://www.sendspace.com/file/cas2kp
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thank you, indeed it sounds close!Future State wrote:I gave it a shot. It's not perfect, but I think it sounds close enough.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/cas2kp
tho still Diva sounds darker and less clean with open filter and juno having Tone set to 0. I wonder if there will be some feature included in later update to "fix" that up.