- Are they bots?
- Do people just indiscriminately click on every download available?
15% mac browsers, but 40% mac downloads?
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Christian Schüler Christian Schüler https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48996
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- 266 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from Hamburg, Germany
Topic. My recent web statistics indicate that 15% of visitors come from the macOS. So far this is a usual figure. However the download statistics say that 40% of demo downloads are for the mac version. Now I try to reconcile these numbers...
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- KVRist
- 348 posts since 27 Mar, 2008
Some people on Mac use a different user agent for their web browsers.
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- KVRAF
- 2746 posts since 13 Feb, 2012 from Amsterdam
I believe it was Linplug that once indicated that the split between sales in their experience was about 50/50 for windows/mac.
Now this can either mean that Macs are relatively more used for music, or that relatively more pirated software is used on windows. Or a combination of both.
In the latter case, it would make sense that someone would want information on the product by visiting the website, but it makes little sense to download the demo since they're going to get a pirated version anyway.
And I sincerely hope that there's another, more innocent and positive, explanation for it
Now this can either mean that Macs are relatively more used for music, or that relatively more pirated software is used on windows. Or a combination of both.
In the latter case, it would make sense that someone would want information on the product by visiting the website, but it makes little sense to download the demo since they're going to get a pirated version anyway.
And I sincerely hope that there's another, more innocent and positive, explanation for it
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I suppose there are many more Windows users than Apple users out there. And I suppose there are fewer programs for the Apple world, so Windows users might be pickier as they have more alternatives to choose from
Or Apple users are more likely to know what they want as I think they are more professional than Windows users on average.
Or Apple users are more likely to know what they want as I think they are more professional than Windows users on average.
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Christian Schüler Christian Schüler https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48996
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- Topic Starter
- 266 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from Hamburg, Germany
Yeah, I can enable the developer menu in Safari and choose, say, to impostor as "Internet Explorer 11". But really do users do this on a regular basis?surferman wrote:Some people on Mac use a different user agent for their web browsers.
I know this to be true for iOS vs Android from a friend game dev. The company he works for doesn't even bother with Android. He says, you'd make pity sales on that platform because of all the warez.BDeep wrote:I believe it was Linplug that once indicated that the split between sales in their experience was about 50/50 for windows/mac.
This is to a lesser extent also applicable to Mac vs Windows. The commercial importance of the Mac platform is higher than a direct comparison based on % of users might indicate, because Mac users actually *buy* stuff. I can confirm that.
However, at least up until now, I could not find a working pirated version of AriesVerb (touch wood). I looked in all the usual places, and the only offers are scams, not working copies. Hopefully this continues for a while... So even if one exists, it must be hard to come by. But the casual site visitor might not know that.
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- KVRAF
- 2746 posts since 13 Feb, 2012 from Amsterdam
Ah! That's great news!
I just saw you updated Ariesverb, was it for Mac before, or just since this update? That might explain the extra demo downloads.
Otherwise, I really wouldn't know...
And I still wouldn't rule out the pirates vs buyers thing completely, after all, demos are likely mainly used by people who would potentially -buy- the software.
I just saw you updated Ariesverb, was it for Mac before, or just since this update? That might explain the extra demo downloads.
Otherwise, I really wouldn't know...
And I still wouldn't rule out the pirates vs buyers thing completely, after all, demos are likely mainly used by people who would potentially -buy- the software.
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Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
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- 1136 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
Since we sell PC+Mac licenses combined since many years I cannot give you exact numbers, but roughly 25-40% is a realistic estimate for Mac users and matches what other developers have reported. So it's definitely substantially more than 15%.
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- 1793 posts since 9 Apr, 2011
This sounds like a simple explanation to me. If more Windows users click through without purchasing/downloading, then you'd have a higher proportion of Mac sales/downloads relative to Mac views.fluffy_little_something wrote:And I suppose there are fewer programs for the Apple world, so Windows users might be pickier as they have more alternatives to choose from
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Christian Schüler Christian Schüler https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48996
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- 266 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from Hamburg, Germany
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- KVRian
- 621 posts since 28 Feb, 2011 from Sweden
I see similar stuff, much less mac visitors than windows visitors but mac visitors are more likely to buy.
I would still say ~75% of customers are windows.
I would still say ~75% of customers are windows.
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