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Postby gvala; Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:45 am Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

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My team at Microsoft is looking for audio software engineers and program managers with experience building best-in-class products. If you want to be a part of the future of music creation in multiple dimensions check out the following openings and apply!

Senior Program Manager (Digital Audio Software)
https://careers.microsoft.com/jobdetails.aspx?ss=&pg=0&so=&rw=1&jid=304496&jlang=EN&pp=SS (https://careers.microsoft.com/jobdetails.aspx?ss=&pg=0&so=&rw=1&jid=304496&jlang=EN&pp=SS)

Senior Music Software Engineer
https://careers.microsoft.com/jobdetails.aspx?ss=&pg=0&so=&rw=1&jid=320824&jlang=en&pp=ss (https://careers.microsoft.com/jobdetails.aspx?ss=&pg=0&so=&rw=1&jid=320824&jlang=en&pp=ss)
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Postby valhallasound; Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:22 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

A bit of advice to the poster: When interviewing candidates for this job, lay off the "brain teaser" questions that you find in the back of Scientific American. Figuring out how to build a trebuchet, or how to move the trains around, is a great way to fill up a company with folks that know how to build a trebuchet. These skills don't have much to do with audio DSP and audio programming.

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masterhiggins
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Postby masterhiggins; Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:27 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

If they have experience building "best-in-class products" they probably wouldn't work for MS.
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Postby Daags; Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:40 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

A bit of advice to the poster: ignore the patronising and snobbery. A lot of neckbearded ne'erdowells around here, so there may well be more to come.


I for one appreciate job opportunities like this being brought to the attention of the forum.
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masterhiggins
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Postby masterhiggins; Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:19 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Daags wrote:A bit of advice to the poster: ignore the patronising and snobbery. A lot of neckbearded ne'erdowells around here, so there may well be more to come.


I for one appreciate job opportunities like this being brought to the attention of the forum.


I believe you mean patronization. That's what happens when you stay up past your bedtime.
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Postby HunterKiller; Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:59 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

gvala wrote:My team at Microsoft is looking for audio software engineers and program managers with experience building best-in-class products. If you want to be a part of the future of music creation in multiple dimensions check out the following openings and apply!

Guys, first fix your Windows, get rid of all the crap bloatware, the spying bullshit, and return to the simplicity (but with security) of XP. Where the user is the master, and decides what goes and what doesn't go. Then and only then lift up your heads and look people eye to eye and ask for the best of the best. First tidy up your house, then ask others to come and have party there.
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Postby SLiC; Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:08 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

So, one of the biggest software companies in the world comes to KVR to ask for help developing music/audio software and they just get slagged off.

Way to go KVR, so ends any prospect of KVR being taken seriously or prospective employers or contractors.
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:19 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

masterhiggins wrote:
Daags wrote:A bit of advice to the poster: ignore the patronising and snobbery. A lot of neckbearded ne'erdowells around here, so there may well be more to come.


I for one appreciate job opportunities like this being brought to the attention of the forum.


I believe you mean patronization. That's what happens when you stay up past your bedtime.


In English we spell it with an S not a Z
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masterhiggins
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Postby masterhiggins; Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:24 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:
Daags wrote:A bit of advice to the poster: ignore the patronising and snobbery. A lot of neckbearded ne'erdowells around here, so there may well be more to come.


I for one appreciate job opportunities like this being brought to the attention of the forum.


I believe you mean patronization. That's what happens when you stay up past your bedtime.


In English we spell it with an S not a Z


I meant the form, as in verb as opposed to noun. ;)
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fmr
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Postby fmr; Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:34 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

HunterKiller wrote: Guys, first fix your Windows, get rid of all the crap bloatware, the spying bullshit, and return to the simplicity (but with security) of XP. Where the user is the master, and decides what goes and what doesn't go. Then and only then lift up your heads and look people eye to eye and ask for the best of the best. First tidy up your house, then ask others to come and have party there.

Seriously? XP? With security? You mean, like Windows 7? :hihi:

I'm glad Microsoft is looking seriously to audio, after all these years. I'd say the first thing would be to create a serious workflow in the OS, something like Core Audio, where people could work with low latencies and several sample resolutions without having to reside on the expertise of the driver writers of the audio interface companys (which suck most of the time), and third party technologies, like ASIO. Something like Core Audio (yes, I'm pointing to Apple - they did that roght). But please do not come with another plug-in format - we already have more than enough of those.

Another thing is improving the graphical aspect of the OS - please abandon that shitty flat appearance, which looks ugly as hell. You mat be flat(ter) without being ugly - OS X again could be called here. Even your Office icons for OS X look way better than the ones you did for your own OS :roll: .

Anyway, welcome, and I hope you find some skilfull people that will help make Windows a better environment for audio. :tu:
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Postby stratum; Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:10 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Guys, first fix your Windows, get rid of all the crap bloatware


I agree with that. (I had to downgrade to windows 8 because windows 10 never kept working longer than a few days - after each update which is supposed to fix a few things a new bug is introduced.) If it were possible I would further downgrade to windows 7 - the last microsoft OS that doesn't have multiple personality disorder. Is this supposed to be a tablet OS or a desktop OS?:)

A bit of advice to the poster: When interviewing candidates for this job, lay off the "brain teaser" questions that you find in the back of Scientific American. Figuring out how to build a trebuchet, or how to move the trains around, is a great way to fill up a company with folks that know how to build a trebuchet.


Another good advice, since they have filled the company with these people, they no longer know how to make an operating system.
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Postby SLiC; Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:32 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Windows has over 91% of the desktop market (Mac 6%) you would think more people would switch if it was so bad!

Just to balance some of the negativity, I have 5 computers at home running Win 10 and over 30 at work - never had any issues and my audio Win 10 PC runs better than my previous win 7 (without any tweaking and internet on). Windows has to deal with an almost infinitely variable range of constantly changing hardware configurations (Apple just builds a very limited set of hardware), I think they do a pretty good job and am very please to see them moving in to the media side of computers and not just business systems.

Given that Windows totally dominates the desktop computer O/S world it can only be a good thing if they are now going to concentrate on the pro audio side, things like native aggregate devices and anything that gives lower latency at a core level (around the VST framework) would be superb.
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:45 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

fmr wrote:
HunterKiller wrote: Guys, first fix your Windows, get rid of all the crap bloatware, the spying bullshit, and return to the simplicity (but with security) of XP. Where the user is the master, and decides what goes and what doesn't go. Then and only then lift up your heads and look people eye to eye and ask for the best of the best. First tidy up your house, then ask others to come and have party there.

Seriously? XP? With security? You mean, like Windows 7? :hihi:

I'm glad Microsoft is looking seriously to audio, after all these years. I'd say the first thing would be to create a serious workflow in the OS, something like Core Audio, where people could work with low latencies and several sample resolutions without having to reside on the expertise of the driver writers of the audio interface companys (which suck most of the time), and third party technologies, like ASIO. Something like Core Audio (yes, I'm pointing to Apple - they did that roght). But please do not come with another plug-in format - we already have more than enough of those.

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If you install Win 10 they have already addressed this
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Postby fmr; Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:11 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
fmr wrote: I'm glad Microsoft is looking seriously to audio, after all these years. I'd say the first thing would be to create a serious workflow in the OS, something like Core Audio, where people could work with low latencies and several sample resolutions without having to reside on the expertise of the driver writers of the audio interface companys (which suck most of the time), and third party technologies, like ASIO. Something like Core Audio (yes, I'm pointing to Apple - they did that right). But please do not come with another plug-in format - we already have more than enough of those.


If you install Win 10 they have already addressed this


If you mean low latency and multiple sample resolutions, I have Windows 10 installed in several machines, and this isn't addressed (at least in the way Core Audio was). Maybe it takes time for programmers, makers and vendors to adapt, but currently, the majority of applications either don't take advantage of the low latency, or they become unstable or take too much CPU.

Maybe things will improve with time.
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Guillaume Piolat
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Postby Guillaume Piolat; Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:11 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

I want to echo the sentiment: please, not another plugin format :)
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