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stratum
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1285 posts since 29 May, 2012

Postby stratum; Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:19 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Lol I know there are hundreds of thousands. Which makes it more absurd that they can't find time for basic stuff like user-adjustable system font/size.


https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/ ... e-api-war/

("The Raymond Chen Camp and The MSDN Magazine Camp. " part).

Apparently people like "Raymond Chen" is old fashion, based on the premise that stable operating systems and other related boring stuff don't bring revenue.
~stratum~
Taika-Kim
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622 posts since 14 May, 2002, from Finland

Postby Taika-Kim; Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:01 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

In the actual job offer:" You have experience delivering algorithm-focused composition tools or signal processing tools to the market. "

What could that mean? Maybe they should just buy Cognitone and make a version of Synfire with a sequence generator and an UI designed for humans :D
Taika-Kim
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Postby Taika-Kim; Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:14 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

In the second one:"you will use your background in digital audio software, virtual instruments, or game audio platforms to partner with our Audio Engine team to prototype and build a software platform that enables new music entertainment scenarios. You will research customer habits and difficulties in digital music creation,"

So it looks like they want to create tools to make digital music creation more accessable. That sound good to me, now DAWs are pretty hard to approach if you are not very technically inclined. I know many people who would like to have a go at creating music, but who would never be bothered to learn a modern DAW.
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Zaphod (giancarlo)
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Postby Zaphod (giancarlo); Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:05 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

JCJR wrote:
Zaphod (giancarlo) wrote:Lol they are hundreds of thousands, I don't think the hiring guy is connected in any way with support and bug fixing, or product planning

Thankz Zaphod. Probably neither more nor less effective than any other random method. About equally futile as writing a letter to bill gates. :)

Lol I know there are hundreds of thousands. Which makes it more absurd that they can't find time for basic stuff like user-adjustable system font/size.

Or that they are so hell-for-leather on some creators update with large probability of total suckage-- That they casually break the older adobe elements userbase without even slowing down or looking back. "What was that bump? Did you feel a bump? Nah just a pothole. Push the pedal to the metal we are late to our update!" :)

Am being sarcastic but such behavior made me completely give up on apple. Shame to see all OS companies going silly on us. I really do "in general" quite like win10.


Loool
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Russell Grand
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Postby Russell Grand; Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:57 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

masterhiggins wrote:If they have experience building "best-in-class products" they probably wouldn't work for MS.

:roll:
Cyprien Marzano
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Postby Cyprien Marzano; Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:59 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Hi, as sound eng., i use to work with pro tools.
My school memory was based on a plug in rtas creation.
OK U wanna do a Big Competitor!
The main aim is what do u want to do??
for expensive project there's already good daw and hardware workin with pc
And you have to be very versatile and welcome many plug ins format not only vst..
And there's a choice to do!
Is it for music creation with many gadget as Garage band is it a live player editor as ableton an easy use as fl or a sound design tool as pro tools or studio one...
Personnaly i run a Handmade pc with a mac os and pro tools..
I do support for studios from digidesign 6.1 to actual avid, i like to diy my analog hardware. I f u need discussion ;)
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withandi
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4 posts since 5 Apr, 2010, from Poland

Postby withandi; Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:53 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Ok. Instead of doing this unnesessary conversation about nothing , please people widen up your range of posibilities and take it seriously . Let me ask you a simple question : how many of you have access to new techniques and methods of optimisation of your products , those wich are hidden by companies creating systems ? Yes Camel Audio was bought by Apple but how many of you have chance to in same position as Camel Audio . Instead of barking left and right check what they have to offer and validate it.
AnX
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Postby AnX; Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:13 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

Good to see all the microsoft drama queens getting their panties in a knot.

Thankfully none of them have any coding talent, so they wont be applying for the jobs.
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withandi
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4 posts since 5 Apr, 2010, from Poland

Postby withandi; Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:41 pm Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

And one more thing.Is it something bad in bringing music software for mases ? Imagine something like "windows music maker" supporting vst/vsti with unlimited channels with ability of congregattion of audio sources , build in your system with possibility to expand using already known standards.As a user of software/musician - please do something for people who want to create with less things to know/program.Many of modern DAW is bloated with functions that we don't need or know about ,but to do some basic edits it's pain in ... .And those functions take our precious resources for other task that we actually need.Thank you :)
quikquak
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294 posts since 6 Aug, 2005, from England

Postby quikquak; Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:00 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

AnX wrote:Good to see all the microsoft drama queens getting their panties in a knot.

Thankfully none of them have any coding talent, so they wont be applying for the jobs.

:roll: :ud: There's no need for any of that, precious. Go redact something.
AnX
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Postby AnX; Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:51 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

As if by magic....
quikquak
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294 posts since 6 Aug, 2005, from England

Postby quikquak; Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:19 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

...The smug Apple lover appears in a flurry of dollar bills.
deastman
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Postby deastman; Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:19 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

This topic is hilarious! Someone from MS drops by to share a link to a job posting, and immediately we're inundated by insults, debates about the merits of various versions of Windows, unsolicited advice for MS, people publicly announcing their interest in a forum, and others somehow believing this is an ongoing two-way dialogue between them and the OP. It's just a link to a job opening, people! The same link was undoubtedly shared on many other forums. Either apply for the position or don't, but you're deluding yourself if you believe that you're somehow engaging with Microsoft in an open debate about anything and everything in this thread.
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quikquak
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294 posts since 6 Aug, 2005, from England

Postby quikquak; Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:27 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

I don't think people are really thinking that. Just laughing I think, well I hope so anyway.
AnX
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Postby AnX; Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:58 am Re: Microsoft looking for Audio Developers in the VI/VST space

deastman wrote:This topic is hilarious! Someone from MS drops by to share a link to a job posting, and immediately we're inundated by insults, debates about the merits of various versions of Windows, unsolicited advice for MS, people publicly announcing their interest in a forum, and others somehow believing this is an ongoing two-way dialogue between them and the OP. It's just a link to a job opening, people! The same link was undoubtedly shared on many other forums. Either apply for the position or don't, but you're deluding yourself if you believe that you're somehow engaging with Microsoft in an open debate about anything and everything in this thread.



Exactly :clap:
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