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quikquak
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Postby quikquak; Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:30 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

Apple just wants to control everything, I'm surprised they even allow third party devs like us on their machines in the first place! :D
stratum
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Postby stratum; Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:37 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

So lets complete the rumours to its natural conclusion :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3fVDCtc0OY
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Postby 0xEAB; Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:37 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

quikquak wrote:I'm surprised they even allow third party devs

It's because they make money by selling XCode :wink:
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waltercruz
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Postby waltercruz; Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:24 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

whyterabbyt wrote:No. They're locking down, not opening up.


yes. And add to this that they seem to be preparing their system to run on their own processor.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker ... -macs-date
quikquak
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Postby quikquak; Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:39 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

Yeah, do I buy a new mac now or wait two years?! Don't tell me - do both right?
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EvilDragon
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Postby EvilDragon; Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:04 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

Can always just stop shelling out too much for their crap, too. :D
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Postby deastman; Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:16 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

quikquak wrote:Yeah, do I buy a new mac now or wait two years?! Don't tell me - do both right?


Buy early and buy often.
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quikquak
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Postby quikquak; Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:29 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

deastman wrote:
quikquak wrote:Yeah, do I buy a new mac now or wait two years?! Don't tell me - do both right?


Buy early and buy often.

Yessir!
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whyterabbyt
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Postby whyterabbyt; Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:48 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

I wonder if they're going to break Metal every 12 months like they do AU.
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Music Engineer
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3757 posts since 8 Mar, 2004, from Berlin, Germany

Postby Music Engineer; Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:48 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

Guillaume Piolat wrote:The more particular and non-standard it is to develop for them, the more developers will make it Apple-only.


wouldn't it be more more likely that those developers just drop the mac support and make their applications windows only or windows-and-linux?
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VariKusBrainZ
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:41 am Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

Apple have acquired Iron maiden :o

stratum wrote:So lets complete the rumours to its natural conclusion :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3fVDCtc0OY
mystran
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4888 posts since 11 Feb, 2006, from Helsinki, Finland

Postby mystran; Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:21 pm Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

I don't think having to write yet-another-wrapper for some new API is necessarily a huge deal, but deprecation of otherwise perfectly reasonable hardware is arguably a dick move.

edit: I'd like to add that I personally think OpenGL is a terrible API that only has one killer feature: it works. :P
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stratum
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Postby stratum; Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:12 pm Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

MS has another way of deprecating old API's: New hardware requires new APIs and old APIs do not support newer hardware ( I've learnt it the hard way while trying to figure out why BluetoothFindFirstDevice does not return low energy bluetooth devices)
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Aleksey Vaneev
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Postby Aleksey Vaneev; Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:58 pm Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

waltercruz wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:No. They're locking down, not opening up.


yes. And add to this that they seem to be preparing their system to run on their own processor.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker ... -macs-date

I hope and expect this "ARM desktop" narrative goes bust. Save $30 on a CPU cost and lose $50 on software upgrades, bad economy for everyone.
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Postby stratum; Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:13 pm Re: There goes OpenGL for Mac.

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker ... -macs-date


I hope and expect this "ARM desktop" narrative goes bust. Save $30 on a CPU cost and lose $50 on software upgrades, bad economy for everyone.


Just $50?
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