SPAN mono only in EXT ?

[Rathead]

I posted this on the Effects forum but no replies. Maybe it is a bit too EXT specific, so I will try again here.

Anybody who uses SPAN successfully (or not), please respond.

Greetings.

I have been using SPAN here and there for ages and am now up to V2.4.1 which I think is the latest.

I have had reason to look at the input / output routing recently, trying to display two different - stereo - spectra, one for each of two instruments.

I have read all of the relevant documents but I have obviously missed something fundamental.

I am also using it in Energy XT2.6, which I know has some ambiguous stereo/mono issues.

No matter how I set up the routing I can not get SPAN to pass a stereo signal.
Even when in dual mono mode, I can see a spectrum for left, and an underlay for right and they behave correctly within SPAN, but there are only mono outputs, no matter how I configure the routing.

So, please, what am I doing wrong?

TIA

Rattsarrse

[lee4d]

I have always had this problem with all voxengo plugins in xt2, never worked out how to fix it. I use the analyser built into meldaproduction mequaliser now. Its pretty good, plus I then have an EQ on hand too (and its free - although the upgrade was only £25 or so for the whole freeware suite and then allows yiu to resize the GUI).

[Rathead]

Oh, Dear.

SPAN is the only Voxengo plugin I really use. It has the advantage of being able to show two separate inputs in different colours on the same display which is useful for identifying where two instruments clash.

I have a workaround where I send the instruments outputs to a mixer channel, and have a parallel send to SPAN with its output to a muted channel.

Would be nice to make it work properly, though. I put in a FR years ago for stereo / mono / selectable ins and outs on EXT but it hasn't shown up yet.

Rgds

rat

[lee4d]

That is what I ended up doing, I also tried using it as a send with that muted, but found both to be a pain. Its a shame really, as both versions of SPAN have nice clear GUIs. I never knew about the duel-display though - should really start reading the manuals!

[Rathead]

Yeah, it is harder than it needs to be.
If anybody can point me to another multiple input spec an, I would gladly pay for it.
The trick is to have both ( or all) channels on the same display.

Suggestions anyone?

Rat of ages

[codec_spurt]

I believe it is a known bug to do with plugins that have certain input/output configuration settings not working properly in XT2. This has been posted before and there are convoluted workarounds. Search the forum.

It is probably not worth the hassle.


Anyway, do a search. It is a known problem and the elders of EnergyXT2 have posted their knowledge and workarounds. Sorry for being vague. There is quite a bit of info on this forum about it.

Alternatives? There are a few. Maybe someone else could say what they use.
Span is pretty good but it is not the only one...


EDIT:

Ok, Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will shoot me down.
I am probably very wrong about this, but check this page out:
http://asseca.com/ext-setup/configuration.html

I think it might have something to do with it. But I might be wrong.

Ok, I just spent ten minutes searching this for you. Nothing. I'm pretty good searching, but I got nowhere. But I have no doubt that if you email either Alexy of Voxengo or Jorgen of XT they know about this problem. Obviously it is still not sorted out. I can't remember whose fault it was at the end of the day, but who cares. It is a known problem. Use the workaround or find another spectrum analyser. Btw, there are a few other plugins that exhibit this behaviour, it is to do with the input/output config.


Good luck.

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All Voxengo plugins work as mono only in Energy XT

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Taikakim on Apr 9, 2010, 8:46pm:
So that's the problem.

When I for example open Latency Delay in the modular view, I get 8 inputs and outputs, but they all convert the signal into mono :/

How do I remedy this problem?

Otherwise the plugin seems great, I can align my Elevayta Spaceboy with it, since it makes over 90ms delay and PDC is not so great with effect chains in EXT...

Aleksey Vaneev on Apr 10, 2010, 9:37am:
Some of the latest plug-in versions have the "No multi-channel operation" global switch which allows hosts like EnergyXT that do not support multi-channel plug-ins correctly to operate in stereo mode.

EnergyXT quite frivolously treats multiple IO of the plug-in as several mono inputs while in reality it is a single multi-channel bus.

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Routing problem

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jdtrbn on Mar 27, 2010, 12:27am:
In energyXT this plug-in seems to have 8 mono inputs, but no stereo inputs. I have to say I have no idea how to set it up for stereo operation. The mono version sounded great though .

Aleksey Vaneev on Mar 27, 2010, 7:02am:
Please enable the "No Multi-channel operation" switch in the global options - there's some bug available in EnergyXT which does not want to recognize multi-channel capability of the plug-in.

jdtrbn on Mar 27, 2010, 9:57am:
Thanks! That solved it.

Aleksey Vaneev on Mar 27, 2010, 10:22am:
You are welcome!


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Edit 3:

Try that 'switch' that Aleksey suggested. It might then work for you. Let us know if it does!

cheers.

[Branis]

The "No Multi-channel operation" switch in the global options works, and not only for SPAN, I'm using Voxformer on both mono and stereo channels without problems.

[codec_spurt]

The "No Multi-channel operation" switch in the global options works, and not only for SPAN, I'm using Voxformer on both mono and stereo channels without problems.

Thankyou Branis.

[seismic1]

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Aleksey Vaneev on Mar 27, 2010, 7:02am:
Please enable the "No Multi-channel operation" switch in the global options - there's some bug available in EnergyXT which does not want to recognize multi-channel capability of the plug-in.



jdtrbn on Mar 27, 2010, 9:57am:
Thanks! That solved it.

Aleksey Vaneev on Mar 27, 2010, 10:22am:
You are welcome!


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Edit 3:

Try that 'switch' that Aleksey suggested. It might then work for you. Let us know if it does!

cheers.

Thanks everyone. That switch just solved my problems too.