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Sendy wrote:Performing with others is something I really miss from being in a band. The synergy from just jamming. We're audience and player at the same time. The problem is, it's hard to meet serious people in the area where I live. I was willing to put up with crazy ego-tripper characters and music I didn't 100% care for, just because of the positive aspects of playing with others.
Even if you do meet serious people, it's quite difficult to keep your own identity. I loved playing in bands, I hated being in bands. I like jamming with others now, I do it from time to time, but, the music that comes out is the sum of our reciprocating feedback loop, it would be different if we each played alone.

In short, it's hard enough to meet serious people, and by serious here, I'm not even talking that serious, I just mean as serious as I am plus or minus 10 percent. It's even harder to meet people that serious where you either are on a common wavelength, or, the sum has so much value to you that the blending of your musical voices fills your needs.

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seeing a few people do anyway, definitely yes
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I wrote a song called "Only These 4 Wallz" because that all that hears my music so I guess the answer is yes.http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=311336&t=954 For the record this is 11 years old and I wrote a song today. :borg:

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No one ever hears most of the music I work on these days, because I almost never record anything.
I still play for at least an hour, most days, but I don't have much drive to "finish" anything lately.

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Tricky-Loops wrote:
Sendy wrote:I know plenty of bloggers who carry on blogging despite low readership numbers. Because the act of writing it's-self is a way of sorting our thoughts out.
There are also a lot of people, especially women, who are writing huge diaries only with their thoughts... For me, this would be a waste of time, I always think thoughts are there to be forgotten, nothing is older than the thoughts of yesterday...

But then, for people who write lyrics, this can be helpful! :idea:
I used to feel the same way, my rambling thoughts, dreams and daydreams were rubbish to be discarded. Often that is the case. But since I've started writing more of them down and exploring them, I believe I've gotten closer to finding my "true voice" and am more creative. And yes, writing stuff down is great inspiration not only for lyrics, but song titles, concepts, signal flows, tricks to mangle square waves, etc :). You have to face the fact that that cool idea for a song title you had when you were stoned actually causes mild embarassment when you rediscover it the next day, but that's all part of the learning process.

It's like, my daydreams, thoughts and night dreams are the "lore" to the backstory of my music. Getting more involved with them made it richer. Writing isn't just a communication, but a way of organising thought. Now, I look back to my work before I started writing and exploring my inner world, and *that* work feels like rubbish, more so than the crappy ideas committed to paper :)

Socrates: "The unexamined life is not worth living" :borg:
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Hink wrote:I asked this many years ago, instead of digging for the thread I thought I would ask again to see how people feel today. The question doesn't need much explaining and there is no right answer, just curious :)
i think for 99,9% here is that the case. :)
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.

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Sendy wrote:"The unexamined life is not worth living"
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murnau wrote:
Hink wrote:I asked this many years ago, instead of digging for the thread I thought I would ask again to see how people feel today. The question doesn't need much explaining and there is no right answer, just curious :)
i think for 99,9% here is that the case. :)
Let's throw these 99,9 % into a prison with single rooms and no contact to other musicians or listeners, and we'll see what they do... *



* working on a plan to escape

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Kevin Deas wrote:I wrote a song called "Only These 4 Wallz" because that all that hears my music so I guess the answer is yes.http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=311336&t=954 For the record this is 11 years old and I wrote a song today. :borg:
Funny I thought just maybe someone would listen to this song. I guess most people here are only interested in their own music. If you listened to others music you'd be surprised how many would listen to yours. ghettosynth I ain't dissing you, but you sound like you could use a friend. I could use one too if you want to be friends.

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I'll listen to your song, Kevin Deas and get back to you w/feedback. If possible, that is, I'm on a faulty dial up connection and things like Soundcloud simply don't work. I listen to original music from Youtube a lot, and can't comment as my connection is too slow for the Google Plus setup that initiates the comment part.
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Kevin Deas wrote:
Kevin Deas wrote:I wrote a song called "Only These 4 Wallz" because that all that hears my music so I guess the answer is yes.http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=311336&t=954 For the record this is 11 years old and I wrote a song today. :borg:
Funny I thought just maybe someone would listen to this song. I guess most people here are only interested in their own music.
I went to listen to the track, FYI, but it required login and couldn't remember if I have an acid planet login or not, and I didn't want to create one.

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Tricky-Loops wrote:
murnau wrote:
Hink wrote:I asked this many years ago, instead of digging for the thread I thought I would ask again to see how people feel today. The question doesn't need much explaining and there is no right answer, just curious :)
i think for 99,9% here is that the case. :)
Let's throw these 99,9 % into a prison with single rooms and no contact to other musicians or listeners, and we'll see what they do... *
I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that in such a "desert island" situation I would certainly continue making music if I could.
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I think making sounds, music and beats is more musical therapy for my addled brain than anything. So yes I would!
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Ok I heard "Like it" from Kevin's page, the waltz one wanted me to sign up first. I think there should be more autotune, the main vocals are dry, for it to work there'd have to be massive support from instruments to complement the dry vox. The stereo claps sound good.
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Sendy wrote:When you dance, do you need an audience?

I think, for me, while there is a joy in sharing with others, getting praise for what you do, etc.. It's sort of compartmentalized. I don't let that feedback loop circuit close, letting the audience expectation feed into it's creation. That has happened a few times and it honestly throws me for a loop (sometimes quite literally).

Sure, positive comments fan my ego (let's be honest here) and part of me wants to make a mark on music history, no matter how small and insignificant. But that whole system is seperated in my mind from the creative loop of music exploration, such that I can quantify how much joy I get both from the creation and the satisfaction of sharing and recognition, etc.

And honestly I feel the joy of creation cannot be beat.
On getting praise, I've had some of that, don't get me wrong, but, honestly, I often don't want "praise" from others. Positive or negative feedback that isn't automatic isn't really interesting to me because I think that it's often riding on a verbal train driven by some other need. When I played live, people danced, or they didn't. If they didn't, then I knew my "art" failed because that was the intent, to make people dance. That was all the feedback I needed at the time. These days, I don't need other people to like my music, I just need to like it myself. Praise gives me no power, successful creation, as I define it, does.

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