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kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:51 am

TVEC 3 PDF Files

DarkStar wrote:Are there any downloadable .html versions or .PDF versions?

i haven't seen any pdf versions so i made them:

TVEC 3 Programming (Concert Strings II)

TVEC 3 Programming (Concert Brass II)

TVEC 3 For Strings At-A-Glance

TVEC 3 For Brass (French Horns, Trumpets, Trombones) At-A-Glance

jerrypettit · Post by **jerrypettit** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:36 am

I'm missing something.

I just upgraded to Kontakt 5, authorized, etc. I can successfully play instruments in Kontakt 5. Yay!

Except my KH stuff (which has all been "extracted here" successfully and is being seen by Kontakt). (I just bought Concert Strings II, and Concert Brass).

When I open it in Kontakt it says "Demo", for one thing. Did I miss some kind of authorization procedure?

No sound. I can see "midi" happening on the indicator, but no sound. I CAN get sound out of my other Kontakt instruments.

What am I missing?

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:31 am

@kcisANDderit,

That's good of you to do that (but that's just a single Overview page

).

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:57 am

jerrypettit wrote:I'm missing something.

I just upgraded to Kontakt 5, authorized, etc. I can successfully play instruments in Kontakt 5. Yay!

Except my KH stuff (which has all been "extracted here" successfully and is being seen by Kontakt). (I just bought Concert Strings II, and Concert Brass).

When I open it in Kontakt it says "Demo", for one thing. Did I miss some kind of authorization procedure?

No sound. I can see "midi" happening on the indicator, but no sound. I CAN get sound out of my other Kontakt instruments.

What am I missing?

this is strange since these are unprotected libraries... Are you sure that K5 was fully authorized?

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:59 am

DarkStar wrote:@kcisANDderit,

That's good of you to do that (but that's just a single Overview page ).

i included everything i see when i click your links. i don't understand, what's missing?

I guess you mean all of the table of contents. I'll have it tonight

[edit]: pdf post above updated with complete TVEC 3 guides for CS2 and CB2

jerrypettit · Post by **jerrypettit** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:06 pm

>What am I missing?...this is strange since these are unprotected libraries... Are you sure that K5 was fully authorized?<

**Yes. I am able to play other sounds in there--just not KH.

...sigh... I'll contact Hunter directly and see if we can figure things out.

amadeusrecords · Post by **amadeusrecords** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:53 pm

Vibrato in Solo Bowed Instruments

In solo instruments of Concert Strings II (and previous) VibratoLive is not implemented.
Furthermore, there are not intermediate levels of vibrato between 'non vibrato' and 'vibrato espressivo'.

The vibrato levels can be changed a LITTLE bit if you use less velocity. This is only for the violins and violas however.

Thanks,
Kirk

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:27 pm

jerrypettit wrote:>What am I missing?...this is strange since these are unprotected libraries... Are you sure that K5 was fully authorized?<

**Yes. I am able to play other sounds in there--just not KH.

...sigh... I'll contact Hunter directly and see if we can figure things out.

"demo" errors have so far been related to an incorrect installation procedure

if it turns out your problem/solution is indeed different please come back here and post the solution

StickyWicket · Post by **StickyWicket** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:39 pm

kcisANDderit wrote:
StickyWicket wrote:
if you use extract to instead of extract here, extra subfolders will be created leading to an error msg when you try to load an instrument
I wish I read this before installing....

I downloaded Diamond into a different folder than where all my Kontakt4 samples are kept, but both are on the same drive. What's the best way to fix this so I can use the "extract here" function so it will see all the samples?

Thanks,
as DarkStar said, it's easiest to delete and start from scratch. i think it may be more time consuming for you otherwise

Thanks kcis & Darkstar...
I deleted and reinstalled in the K4 samples folder, but haven't had a chance to check it out yet.....will do so tonight.

Great idea on starting this Tips/Q&A thread!!

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:12 pm

^^^^
You're welcome

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:12 pm

synchronizer wrote:I was simply asking if there was a way to control how much emphasis there is on the bow/scraping noises [in Diamond]

KirkHunter wrote:Yes you can easily control this using either the attack knob, lessening the marcato amount, or even choosing a lighter staccato style such as detaché.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:48 pm

DarkStar wrote:There are an online TVEC 3 User Guide here:
http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/Concer ... rview.html
and
http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/Concer ... rview.html

And "TVEC 3 At a Glance" guides here:
http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/tvec3_strings.html
http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/tvec3_brass.html

Are there any downloadable .html versions or .PDF versions?

I'll look into the missing sample issue. Also, I'm putting together a wishlist, so I'll include what you wrote before about extending the assignable keyswitch range.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:56 pm

jerrypettit wrote:I'm missing something.

I just upgraded to Kontakt 5, authorized, etc. I can successfully play instruments in Kontakt 5. Yay!

Except my KH stuff (which has all been "extracted here" successfully and is being seen by Kontakt). (I just bought Concert Strings II, and Concert Brass).

When I open it in Kontakt it says "Demo", for one thing. Did I miss some kind of authorization procedure?

No sound. I can see "midi" happening on the indicator, but no sound. I CAN get sound out of my other Kontakt instruments.

What am I missing?

Thanks for the email about this. I didn't see this thread until today. We'll get to the bottom of it.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:00 pm

PRS - Folders and Files

This may be helpful. Below is a listing showing the organisation of the folders and files for Pop Rock Strings.
-- it includes the TVEC-3 Instruments, whioch are a bonus in the GB,
-- I have removed several of the ifles, for clarity,
-- I have added a folder "zz_originals_DS". I store the original Instrument patches (in their .zip files) in there, just in case I manage to mistakenly overwrite any of them.

Folders:

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K:\KIRK HUNTER\POP ROCK STRINGS
+---Documentation
|   \---Pop_Rock_Strings_II_Manual
|       \---CS_II_Items
|           \---images_manual
+---Instruments
|   +---a_4_Solo_String_Players (Solo)
|   +---b_13_String_Players (Quarter-Chamber)
|   +---c_23_String_Players (Half-Studio)
|   +---d_46_String_Players (Whole-Symphonic)
|   +---e_Combined_Sections (QUAD)
|   +---zz_originals_DS
|   \---_TVEC_3_Instruments
|       \---ir_samples_TVEC3
\---Samples

Files:

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K:\KIRK HUNTER\POP ROCK STRINGS
|   Pop Rock Strings_info.nkc
|   Pop Rock Strings_info.nkx
|   
+---Documentation
|   |   Pop_Rock_Strings_Manual.pdf
|   |   
|   \---Pop_Rock_Strings_II_Manual
|       |   Pop_Strings_Manual.html
|       |   
|       \---CS_II_Items
|           |   accent_styles.html
... etc
|           |   vibratolive.html
|           |   
|           \---images_manual
|                   accentchooser.png
... etc
|                   vibratolive2.png
|                   
+---Instruments
|   +---a_4_Solo_String_Players (Solo)
|   |       00-----------VIOLINS------------------------.nki
|   |       01 Pop Rock Violins Solo All Articulations.nki
... etc
|   |       46 Pop Rock Strings Solo Pizzicato.nki
|   |       
|   +---b_13_String_Players (Quarter-Chamber)
|   |       00-----------VIOLINS------------------------.nki
|   |       01 Pop Rock Violins 4 All Articulations.nki
... etc
|   |       46 Pop Rock Strings 13 Pizzicato.nki
|   |       
|   +---c_23_String_Players (Half-Studio)
|   |       00-----------VIOLINS------------------------.nki
|   |       01 Pop Rock Violins 8 All Articulations.nki
... etc
|   |       46 Pop Rock Strings 23 Pizzicato.nki
|   |       
|   +---d_46_String_Players (Whole-Symphonic)
|   |       00-----------VIOLINS------------------------.nki
|   |       01 Pop Rock Violins 16 All Articulations.nki
... etc
|   |       46 Pop Rock Strings 46 Pizzicato.nki
|   |       
|   +---e_Combined_Sections (QUAD)
|   |       00-----------VIOLINS------------------------.nki
|   |       01 Pop Rock Violins QUAD All Articulations.nki
... etc
|   |       46 Pop Rock Strings QUAD Pizzicato.nki
|   |       
|   +---zz_originals_DS
|   |       Instruments.zip
|   |       _TVEC_3_Instruments.zip
|   |       _TVEC_3_Update_Instruments.zip
|   |       
|   \---_TVEC_3_Instruments
|       |   000    V I O L I N S    V I O L I N S    V I O L I N S    .nki
|       |   001        16,8,4,1 Players                                     .nki
|       |   002 Pop Rock Violins QUAD All Articulations.nki
|       |   003 Pop Rock Violins QUAD Accented.nki
|       |   004 Pop Rock Violins QUAD Smooth, Adagio.nki
|       |   005 Pop Rock Violins QUAD Short Notes.nki
|       |   006 Pop Rock Violins QUAD Tremolo.nki
|       |   007 Pop Rock Violins QUAD Pizzicato.nki
... etc
|       |   490        Solos                                                    .nki
|       |   491 Pop Rock Strings Solos All Articulations.nki
|       |   492 Pop Rock Strings Solos Accented.nki
|       |   493 Pop Rock Strings Solos Smooth, Adagio.nki
|       |   494 Pop Rock Strings Solos Short Notes.nki
|       |   495 Pop Rock Strings Solos Tremolo.nki
|       |   496 Pop Rock Strings Solos Pizzicato.nki
|       |   TVEC3SkinPRSbasses.tga
|       |   TVEC3SkinPRScellos.tga
|       |   TVEC3SkinPRScomb.tga
|       |   TVEC3SkinPRSviolas.tga
|       |   TVEC3SkinPRSviolins.tga
|       |   _TVEC_3_Installation.rtf
|       |   
|       \---ir_samples_TVEC3
|               bass_1.wav
|               cello_2.wav
|               kh_brite_room.00.wav
|               kh_brite_room.01.wav
|               viola_1.wav
|               violin_1.wav
|               
\---Samples
        Pop Rock Strings_001.nkc
        Pop Rock Strings_001.nkx
        Pop Rock Strings_002.nkc
        Pop Rock Strings_002.nkx
        Pop Rock Strings_003.nkc
        Pop Rock Strings_003.nkx
        Pop Rock Strings_004.nkc
        Pop Rock Strings_004.nkx
        Pop Rock Strings_refmap.txt

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:47 pm

I'm curious if it's possible to make more TVEC 3 versions of Diamond instruments; namely the non-solo woodwinds.

Thank you for looking into the key switches and missing sample

. (That's the only one I've found thus far.)

Thanks for the scraping bow solution too!

One thing that I've noticed though: The upward slides in string instruments work, but for some reason I can't get the downward slides to work. Is there a problem or is there some procedure that I haven't figured out. For up slides, I move the pitch wheel up and then press the note. It works there. If I move the wheel down though, the note plays normally.

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