Garritan Personal Orchestra upgrade to ver. 5
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1696 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
I made a video going through a bunch of the new sounds from GPO5. Check it out here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zvKNyG50w
If you just want to hear something short that uses the sounds, here is a short song I wrote using GPO5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx4HfhR-Neg
Hopefully this will be helpful to people who are looking to pick this up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zvKNyG50w
If you just want to hear something short that uses the sounds, here is a short song I wrote using GPO5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx4HfhR-Neg
Hopefully this will be helpful to people who are looking to pick this up.
My Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarChandler
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- KVRAF
- 2134 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
Good video, I can't disagree much with what you had to say.
I'm working on a review for BPB, for now I'll just say that the graphic for the "Retro space" reverb impulse is great.
I'm working on a review for BPB, for now I'll just say that the graphic for the "Retro space" reverb impulse is great.
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1696 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
Thanks. I can't wait for you video. Post it here when you upload it.
My Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarChandler
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 11 Feb, 2008 from The Mountains of VT
Nice review, I'm glad you picked up on some of the new choir samples not being perfected tuned down to the last fraction of a cent. We kept the tuning on some of those loose because when they become too perfect it sounds odd in a mix.Chandlerhimself wrote:I made a video going through a bunch of the new sounds from GPO5. Check it out here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zvKNyG50w
What features are you looking for in the ARIA Player?TrekStar wrote:Does anyone know, if the ".audio"- Format files can be converted?
unfortunately the aria Player is very limited.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 21 Aug, 2010
Chad,
As an upgrader from GPO4 to 5 one of my wish for improvements would be far greater consistency between the legacy instruments GUI controls and those of the new instruments? For example we get ADSR controls with the new SAM brass but not the old, we get stereo stage with the old but not the new. What would be sensible IMHO, is to have the same range of controls (where applicable to the sample type in question) right across the whole library.
I've done some work myself on "toggle_mute.xml" and "brass_legato.xml", as can be seen in a recent post on Northern Sounds.
The SFZ file(s) concerned are in the process of being altered.
Just wondering, how "legal" are my modifications? I don't intend selling them.
Some while back I posted a fault in the loop of the low B and C of the oboe d'amore within GPO4. I also sent a fix to the desk as well as publishing on the NS forum and, I think, to the MM Garritan forum, as I recall.
That incorrect loop has been carried forward into GPO5. Any chance you can fix this?
I'd be delighted to send you (when I've completed the XML) a vision I have as to what an improved ARIA controls GUI might look like.
Kind regards,
John.
As an upgrader from GPO4 to 5 one of my wish for improvements would be far greater consistency between the legacy instruments GUI controls and those of the new instruments? For example we get ADSR controls with the new SAM brass but not the old, we get stereo stage with the old but not the new. What would be sensible IMHO, is to have the same range of controls (where applicable to the sample type in question) right across the whole library.
I've done some work myself on "toggle_mute.xml" and "brass_legato.xml", as can be seen in a recent post on Northern Sounds.
The SFZ file(s) concerned are in the process of being altered.
Just wondering, how "legal" are my modifications? I don't intend selling them.
Some while back I posted a fault in the loop of the low B and C of the oboe d'amore within GPO4. I also sent a fix to the desk as well as publishing on the NS forum and, I think, to the MM Garritan forum, as I recall.
That incorrect loop has been carried forward into GPO5. Any chance you can fix this?
I'd be delighted to send you (when I've completed the XML) a vision I have as to what an improved ARIA controls GUI might look like.
Kind regards,
John.
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 11 Feb, 2008 from The Mountains of VT
We've been updating the instruments based on requests and feedback. We never imagined everyone requesting the ADSR controls be added to all of the instruments, even the piano. I'd like to update all of the controls with a future update. Tom Hopkins the lead programmer for GPO always stayed away from providing ADSR controls, he didn't want the ability to take the instruments out of realistic amplitude shapes.SysExJohn wrote:Chad,
As an upgrader from GPO4 to 5 one of my wish for improvements would be far greater consistency between the legacy instruments GUI controls and those of the new instruments? For example we get ADSR controls with the new SAM brass but not the old, we get stereo stage with the old but not the new. What would be sensible IMHO, is to have the same range of controls (where applicable to the sample type in question) right across the whole library.
That's the best part of using the .sfz format in my opinion. The instruments are open to edits and large modifications if you desire. Always make a backup of your custom edits before installing any patches updates to make sure they don't get overwritten.I've done some work myself on "toggle_mute.xml" and "brass_legato.xml", as can be seen in a recent post on Northern Sounds.
The SFZ file(s) concerned are in the process of being altered.
Just wondering, how "legal" are my modifications? I don't intend selling them.
I'll take a look, we can fix this so that it will be in the next patch/update.Some while back I posted a fault in the loop of the low B and C of the oboe d'amore within GPO4. I also sent a fix to the desk as well as publishing on the NS forum and, I think, to the MM Garritan forum, as I recall.
That incorrect loop has been carried forward into GPO5. Any chance you can fix this?
FWIW right now the GPO5.01 update is live on the Garritan website. I believe a PR with release notes is also coming. But you should grab the latest download, we've got quite a bunch of updates and tweaks in there for the new Brass and Strings.
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- KVRAF
- 2134 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
I once asked the developer of a drum library if anybody else had asked for the ability to turn off round robins or if I was the only one. It turns out I was the only one, haha.Chad@PA wrote:We've been updating the instruments based on requests and feedback. We never imagined everyone requesting the ADSR controls be added to all of the instruments, even the piano. I'd like to update all of the controls with a future update. Tom Hopkins the lead programmer for GPO always stayed away from providing ADSR controls, he didn't want the ability to take the instruments out of realistic amplitude shapes.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 21 Aug, 2010
Thanks Chad,
Where will I find that update? There's been rumours too of an ARIA player update to 1.872 that people are wingeing about. Or is it just an engine update?
Many thanks again,
Regards,
John.
I wonder why they got added to GPO5 then? What was the decision behind that?Chad@PA wrote: We've been updating the instruments based on requests and feedback. We never imagined everyone requesting the ADSR controls be added to all of the instruments, even the piano. I'd like to update all of the controls with a future update. Tom Hopkins the lead programmer for GPO always stayed away from providing ADSR controls, he didn't want the ability to take the instruments out of realistic amplitude shapes.
Yup, always careful to make sure I can backtrack. (I've been programming since 1967. No, not a typo!)That's the best part of using the .sfz format in my opinion. The instruments are open to edits and large modifications if you desire. Always make a backup of your custom edits before installing any patches updates to make sure they don't get overwritten.
Nice one. Much appreciated.I'll take a look, we can fix this so that it will be in the next patch/update.
Had a look but can't find it yet. Maybe it takes a few days to propagate to the UK? BG.FWIW right now the GPO5.01 update is live on the Garritan website. I believe a PR with release notes is also coming. But you should grab the latest download, we've got quite a bunch of updates and tweaks in there for the new Brass and Strings.
Where will I find that update? There's been rumours too of an ARIA player update to 1.872 that people are wingeing about. Or is it just an engine update?
Many thanks again,
Regards,
John.
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 11 Feb, 2008 from The Mountains of VT
The success of Instant Orchestra with those controls. I like to implement changes in steps to allow the library to be shaped by users. We wanted to spend more time on the new instruments for the 5.0 release, now we can add more instruments and features in point updates.SysExJohn wrote:Thanks Chad,
I wonder why they got added to GPO5 then? What was the decision behind that?Chad@PA wrote: We've been updating the instruments based on requests and feedback. We never imagined everyone requesting the ADSR controls be added to all of the instruments, even the piano. I'd like to update all of the controls with a future update. Tom Hopkins the lead programmer for GPO always stayed away from providing ADSR controls, he didn't want the ability to take the instruments out of realistic amplitude shapes.
The update is live and should be the same worldwide. I'll ask if the file name is the same, hopefully it will display as 5.01. The updated installers include ARIA Player 1.872.Had a look but can't find it yet. Maybe it takes a few days to propagate to the UK? BG.
Where will I find that update? There's been rumours too of an ARIA player update to 1.872 that people are wingeing about. Or is it just an engine update?
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 11 Feb, 2008 from The Mountains of VT
I just heard back, the file name in your account is the same, but it will be the GPO 5.01 update.Chad@PA wrote: The update is live and should be the same worldwide. I'll ask if the file name is the same, hopefully it will display as 5.01. The updated installers include ARIA Player 1.872.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 21 Aug, 2010
Thanks Chad.
Interesting!
I had just done a re-download of the GPO5 install file to put on my backup disk.
So now I will attempt re-installation.
It's a pity they didn't re-label it. Never mind.
May I disseminate this, assuming it works okay, to the NS and the Garritan fora?
Thanks again.
John.
Can confirm that within the zip file is 5.01 installer and ARIA 1.872 player and engine are installed.
Interesting!
I had just done a re-download of the GPO5 install file to put on my backup disk.
So now I will attempt re-installation.
It's a pity they didn't re-label it. Never mind.
May I disseminate this, assuming it works okay, to the NS and the Garritan fora?
Thanks again.
John.
Can confirm that within the zip file is 5.01 installer and ARIA 1.872 player and engine are installed.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 21 Aug, 2010
Sequent,
Yes, sadly that seems to be the case and, to make matters worse, the entire load sequence goes through as before unpacking the 'data' files, checking for integrity, then expanding to the correct format. So, as before, not a little time is consumed upgrading.
What I've been unable to establish, perhaps Chad can tell us, is whether the samples themselves have changed at all, or whether it's just the sfz and xml files and updated ARIA player.
It seems crazy to consume all that bandwidth and to spend so much time just for the small dot exe install file.
I hope they will consider just putting an installer for the new stuff.
Yes, sadly that seems to be the case and, to make matters worse, the entire load sequence goes through as before unpacking the 'data' files, checking for integrity, then expanding to the correct format. So, as before, not a little time is consumed upgrading.
What I've been unable to establish, perhaps Chad can tell us, is whether the samples themselves have changed at all, or whether it's just the sfz and xml files and updated ARIA player.
It seems crazy to consume all that bandwidth and to spend so much time just for the small dot exe install file.
I hope they will consider just putting an installer for the new stuff.