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tconrardy
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3833 posts since 7 Sep, 2003, from Santa Clara, CA, USA

Postby tconrardy; Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:22 am Atomic: MIDI OUT procedures for different hosts

Hi Atomic users

here is a list of procedures for different hosts to use Atomic as an external sequencer. You can also use these procedures for any plugins that have MIDI OUT capabilities.

Midi Out usage for Atomic using Acid pro 6

1. Insert / Softsynth/ Atomic
2. Insert /Softsynth/ Any other VST. For this test, select a percussive style preset.
3. Open Atomic GUI and enable midi Out by selecting the small green arrow button in the midi section.
4. Insert/ Midi Track
5. For Input, select Atomic. For Output, select your chosen softsynth.
6. Select Atomic's track in the mixer view so your keyboard will play Atomic. Play keyboard, and you will hear Atomic controlling your chosen softsynth. Adjust volume levels of Atomic and chosen softsynth in mixer view.
7.To record, enable record on the midi track and record as usual.

Live 6 ( controlling DX10 VST )

1. Open Live. You will see one audio and one midi track as default. If not, select new Live Set.
2. On the plugin device browser, drag over Atomic to the first MIDI Track ( it will say 2MIDI)Rename it to Atomic.
3. On the plugin device browser, select the DX10 plugin, and drag it to an empty section beyond the created Atomic Track. Live will create a new MIDI track. Rename it to the DX10.
4. Select the Atomic track so it brings up the Atomic GUI, and select Monitor IN. Play your MIDI keyboard. You should hear Atomic at this point. Also select the green arrow by MIDI Out so you will have MIDI out going from Atomic.
5.On the DX track, select Monitor IN. Then for 'MIDI From', select Atomic for both Dialogs. ( input type and Input Channel) You should see selections for Atomic!
6. Play your MIDI keyboard. You should hear Atomic play the DX10 vst.

The main sequencer parts will send gating, pitch and velocity settings to the plugin. To control a cutoff frequency, for example, you can first assign velocity to control the filter on the other plugin, and then the velocity knobs on Atomic will control the cutoff on the other synth.

By clicking on the midi button at the bottom you can bring up another display to route midi cc's from the 2 lfo's and other stuff.


FL Studio:
Set ATOMIC's wrapper to "Show MIDI output port" and chose a free port number and set the plugin. ATOMIC should play to the same MIDI-in port.

Sonar6
1. Open a new project.
2. Go to Insert menu and insert Atomic. You should be presented a dialog with options, and one of them is Enable MIDI Output. Check that, and insert Atomic in a track.
3. On a midi track, choose Atomic as MIDI input and your sound-interfaces MIDI OUT as output. You can do this from the side mixer view after clicking on the midi track.
4. Play Atomic. You will now hear Atomic's synth as well as the hardware device you have connected to your sound-interfaces MIDI out.

You can also look at your help topics under "Recording a softsynths MIDI Output"

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If anybody else has any tips for other posts, please feel free to post your suggestions. Each host is different.

I hope these procedures are useful.

Tim
tconrardy
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Postby tconrardy; Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:33 pm

Bumping this in case anyone needs this info

Tim
glokraw
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Postby glokraw; Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:11 pm

For Reaper, and Cantabile.

In Reaper, if your target synth is in track 1, and Atomic is in track 2, left-click the io button for track 1, and in the panel that appears, left-click the bottom-right widget labeled
'add new receive', and choose track 2. Then turn on the Atomic midi-out port to complete the connection. If you have multiple instances of Atomic you want sent to track 1, choose each one in turn in the same panel, or use the last option, 'add receives from all tracks', if you won't be using other plugins in that session, and all Atomic output has that one destination.
To control multiple target instruments with one Atomic, just press the io button on each instruments track, and choose to receive from the track that Atomic is on.
Volume sliders are in the io window, as well as on each track, and in the main mixer view.


In Cantabile, put Atomic in rack 1, track 1. and open a second rack, and put your target synth there.
Find the widget labeled 'send to' in the middle of the interface in the top row, (the logical rack 1 location) left click the 'send to' widget, and choose
rack 2. Turn on the Atomic midi-out port to complete the connection.

For Atomic to control a different target synth at the same time, load it into rack 2 also, and in the row of widgets for the first synth in rack 2, look at the 'Tools' widget, and right next to it is a midiport icon. Left-click it, and it lights up, indicating a midi connection between the two synths in rack 2, and now Atomic will play them both at once, since they are connected. A Vibraphone with some delay, and a muted cornet/trumpet, are a nice combo to experiment with.
To add a third target instrument, use the open/load dialogs, add it to rack 2, and to play it with Atomic, you will go to the midiport icon in the row of the >second< synth, and click it so it lights up.

For using multiple Atomics to play one synth, the process is nearly identical, the only difference is, that >every< midi-port icon in a row for an Atomic must be lit up, so if you put three Atomics in rack 2,
and your target synth in rack 1, you would click the 'Send to' widget for rack 2, and select rack 1, and make sure each midi-port icon in an Atomic instance is lit up.
There are wet, dry, and gain sliders, for accurate volume levels as you desire.

As a treat, the Cantabile audio recorder lets you record live, without rendering, just click the little + sign on the left side of its row, go to and click the tools widget on the far right of its row, and choose
'Record Audio Output'. A great host for easily keeping your unscheduled masterpieces!
Cheers
glokraw
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Postby glokraw; Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:51 pm

Steps to utilize the Atomic midi-out in EnergyXT

In the main ext gui, open the default project if you are new
to EnergyXT, and choose the Window --> browser menu item.
The browser opens on the left, choose Disks, and keep navigating
folders to the Atomic.dll, then just drag it across to the right, and
drop it somewhere near the ext midi-in icon. Double click it to open the Atomic gui.

Note ext default connection colors are green for midi, and blue for audio
On an icon, the connection 'recepticle' is either a small green or blue
square at the top or bottom of each icon. Drag your mouse between like-coloured
recepticles to make connections. As you draw, there is no immediate visual feedback,
confusing those new to ext, but as your mouse nears its destination, a gray line appears, and this changes to blue or green when you complete drawing the line. Reverse completed drawings to remove connections. Position the icons for uncluttered drawing. edit: There is a screengrab of an ext gui in the PDF manual!

Choose a target synth from the browser, and drag it in position for easy connection.
A triangle arrangement works for me.
1. Draw a line between the ext midi-in icon, and Atomics midi-in recepticle (on top of its icon)
2. Draw a line between Atomics midi-out recepticle (on the bottom of its icon), and
the midi-in recepticle on the top of your target synths icon
3. Draw a line between the midi-in recepticle of the target synth, to the midi-out
on the bottom of the Atomic icon.
4. Draw a line between the atomic midi-out recepticle, and the ext-midi out icon.
5. Draw a line between the blue audio-out recepticle on the bottom of the target synth, to the blue ext audio-out icon recepticle, the only blue line so far. If you want to hear Atomics sounds at the same time, connect it in the same way, and adjust the volume of each to taste.

To use external midi gear, connect the physical midi cables, then
1. Connect the ext midi-in to the Atomic midi-in
2. Connect the Atomic mid-out to the ext-midi-out
3. Connect the right set of headphones to your skull.
Ask me how I know :lol: :x :lol:
joevst
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Postby joevst; Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:26 pm

how can it be done in Vaz Modular 3?... I see all the other methods posted here but no solution for running the midi out to a seperate vsti in Vaz Modular...
Would really love to do this ... I egarly await an answer :0)

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