Standalone vs VST version (win7)

[Chris-S]

Hi,
I'm using both versions in parallel. In the newest VST versions (>480) the
envelope handling has been changed, making the two versions incompatible.

So, I can not share my banks-folder between both versions.

Any chance to get an updated version of the standalone?

greetings

[jackoo]

Hi,
I'm using both versions in parallel. In the newest VST versions (>480) the
envelope handling has been changed, making the two versions incompatible.

So, I can not share my banks-folder between both versions.

Any chance to get an updated version of the standalone?

greetings

The standalone is missing the feature UNISON, which can be critical for some newer patches...
Also, I released a converter for upgrading the old patches to the new envelopes. In theory it should work backwards as well, but I never tested that.. hmm...

But I have a question to you:
Why use the standalone, when you can 'build' a standalone from the VST using SAVIhost (http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm)

You have to download their savihost.exe, and rename it to ZynAddSubFX.exe and just make sure you have ZynAddSubFX.dll in the same folder. ZynAddSubFX will complain and write a .cfg file just once, and then it should work (I've tested this, with Win7x64 and VST 496beta works fine).

Use this link to download: http://www.hermannseib.com/programs/savihostnkx86.zip
And this one for the VST: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=268277

LE: you can also disable the newer envelopes in version > 480, if you feel like it!

- If you wish to revert to the old amplitude envelopes, set:
<par name="min_envelope_db" value="-40"/>
<par name="attack_start_db" value="-40"/>

[Chris-S]

Thank you for info.

Is the linux-version from git (see other thread) also using the new envelope
handling?

[jackoo]

i don't really know, but I don't think so.
This is something I needed for myself but like I said you can disable it.

[Chris-S]

Hi,
savihost works good. One small thing: The zyn window is always on top,
so the tooltips are openend behind the zyn window. Didn't find out yet,
where to disable the always-on-top setting.

[jackoo]

Hi,
savihost works good. One small thing: The zyn window is always on top,
so the tooltips are openend behind the zyn window. Didn't find out yet,
where to disable the always-on-top setting.

In the File > Settings window there's a 'On Top' check box, that you should uncheck in order to show the tooltips.

Alternatively, you can modify the cfg file to have the following line:
<par name="dump_append" value="0"/>

Yes, I know it's silly, but dump_append is connected to 'windows on top'. I was too lazy to modify the par name.

[Chris-S]

I found following bug with savihost / zyn vst 496:

When I untick the "stereo" checkbox in Adsynth, then move the Cut-off freq,
ZYN stops working, I only hear some ticking noise.

The old win-standalone does not show this behaviour.

[jackoo]

yes confirmed here as well...

This unfortunately needs more in depth debugging... Thanks for reporting.



LE: AHA!... well, it's all my fault! When you rotate the Cutoff freq. knob, I added code to update the internal parameters of the synth in realtime. Unfortunately I didn't check whether the mode is stereo or not, and I try to update both channels (left and right). But that's a problem with mono because the right channel doesn't exist and I try to write data in some invalid memory location, causing Zyn to crash.

One extra line of could should fix this... [only] if (stereo !=0) then update the right channel...

I will recompile the dll and post it...

[jackoo]

um... I don't have time to make properly release this now. I'll probably make it more official when I've collected more bugs..

Here's a recompiled dll, which should fix the problem:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/63r1c ... FX_499.zip

[Chris-S]

Thank you. It is fixed.

[Chris-S]

Hi,
after quitting savihost I still see 4 times "zynaddsubfx.exe" in
the process list. Is this ok ? (Win-7)

[jackoo]

No, it is not ok.

I cannot reproduce the bug, though. Here the process closes like it should (win7 64bit, MME drivers... didn't test savihost with ASIO, but I assume it would work the same).

Try to forcibly terminate the processes. It is still doing that if you run new instances and then close them?
Is it doing that every time? (even after a system reboot?)



What settings are you using? (in savihost: Devices>Wave...)
What Zyn settings are you using (buffer size?)
What soundcard do you have? What type of drivers are you using?
Does it do the same if you use Zyn as a VST in another host?

[Chris-S]

Hi,
today I also can't reproduce. Maybe it was some temporary problem.