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Is Zyn 3/fusion (VST) discarded?

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Marginal Ray
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133 posts since 21 Feb, 2011, from Paris (France)

Postby Marginal Ray; Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:33 am Is Zyn 3/fusion (VST) discarded?

Hi,

As old Zyn user (my favorite synth among many others free or commercials), I was very happy about the announcement of a new version, totally integrated in Windows 64 bit, with a modern and clear interface. The disappointment was up to my exceptions: The GUI is very nice, nothing to say, but selling an unfinished heavy buggy beta, and not for a cheap price in relation of the price of some commercial synths and the fact that the original Zyn is free, leaves a feeling of unease.

Fortunately, I just downloaded the demo, but I don’t understand how the $59 paid version is still available, at least as VST for Windows (May the Linux version work). A beta is always free!

As other users, I reported several bugs, and an unacceptable problem for old ZynAddSubFx users, who work, like me, on dozen projects using this marvelous synthesizer: The impossibility to load simultaneous the new and the old Zyn, without losing all settings. The only workaround could be to rename the new dll, but It doesn’t work. Of course, the perfect solution would be a bugg free new zyn, simply replacing the old one, without any loose of settings.

Fundamental (the developer) explained it’s not his faute, and asked for a solution another developer (I thing Jackoo) who transposed the original Linux version to VST. I don’t know if Jackoo can help him, but the fact is that the 3.1 version still not works. What a pity!

Now, it would be nice, or simply normal, to inform us about the future of the project. Is it discarded?

Is there any hope to see in 2017 a working Zyn 3 as VST, working simultaneous with the old Zyn, or capable of replacing it through maintaining the instrument settings?

Thanks for Answer

Ray
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364 posts since 21 Oct, 2008, from USA

Postby fundamental; Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:59 am Re: Is Zyn 3/fusion (VST) discarded?

Now, it would be nice, or simply normal, to inform us about the future of the project. Is it discarded?

It is on hold while I finish off my PhD dissertation. There's only so many hours in a day and the final stretch of my academic research has been consuming approximately *all* productive hours of the day.

Is there any hope to see in 2017 a working Zyn 3 as VST, working simultaneous with the old Zyn, or capable of replacing it through maintaining the instrument settings?

Yes. Jackoo sent me a renoise project with the old and new plugins and I should be able to address this for the next update which should be out in the coming months. Fixing the VST incompatibility is one of the next tasks on the TODO list with regards to zyn development. Roughly I'm looking at:

1. Committing and documenting minor changes already implemented in the working copies of zyn-fusion, but not committed (moderate impact, extremely little time to do) (this includes a long since done file browser logic rewrite/some major optimizations/code documentation additions/very minor bug fixes)
2. Fixing up microtonal omissions (basically just checking two file selector issues) (modest impact, very little time to do) (anything beyond the bare minimum here will likely be deferred later into the list)
3. Fix the VST serialization issue (modest impact, moderate time)
4. Add proper MIDI learn parameter exposure to VST/LV2 hosts (very high impact, high time)
5. More realtime automation (unfa has made note of this several times. It's relatively easy to do and it will complement MIDI-learn/host-automation well) (moderate-high impact, low-high time (depending upon scope))
6. The issue trackers will then be used to gather up more tasks (polyphonic after touch has a nice bug report regarding volume issues, there's plenty of misc layout issues to take care of, connecting to remote machines with the UI needs to be properly tested, hopefully default values will be in the OSC metadata at this point and they can be exposed to the UI, etc, etc, etc)
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The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX
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Marginal Ray
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133 posts since 21 Feb, 2011, from Paris (France)

Postby Marginal Ray; Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:32 pm Re: Is Zyn 3/fusion (VST) discarded?

Thanks for explanations.
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364 posts since 21 Oct, 2008, from USA

Postby fundamental; Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:18 pm Re: Is Zyn 3/fusion (VST) discarded?

As of https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zynaddsu ... 8a4d656b8e loading save files from jackoo's VST builds seems to work fine (this will be in the next -rc). Thanks again to jackoo for supplying testing files.
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The author of the Zyn-Fusion UI for ZynAddSubFX

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