"Molot" VST Compressor (freeware) 0.3
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- KVRAF
- 1855 posts since 21 Sep, 2004 from Musician, Recording Engineer, Producer
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 183 posts since 15 Jul, 2009 from Russia
You can set "dithering" to "low" in extended parameters (see the manual for details). Also I have plans to add "dithering off" option in next release.maxxxter wrote:Is there a way to switch of the noisefloor?
Vlad from Tokyo Dawn Labs
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 24 Dec, 2004
Greetings vladg
I'm still using an early version of molot. There seems to be some extra punch within it compared to to the latest version. I wonder if you could give a brief description how the attack envelope has changed? It could be something more than just simple timing differences as I'm not able to get them null out each other. I was just trying to see if and how I can get exactly same sound with each version.
cheers
I'm still using an early version of molot. There seems to be some extra punch within it compared to to the latest version. I wonder if you could give a brief description how the attack envelope has changed? It could be something more than just simple timing differences as I'm not able to get them null out each other. I was just trying to see if and how I can get exactly same sound with each version.
cheers
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 183 posts since 15 Jul, 2009 from Russia
For attack/release envelopes from 0.2.155 to 0.2.168 Butterworth filter was replaced by Bessel one. It is not so early version and I don't think it's your difference.s_t wrote:Greetings vladg
I'm still using an early version of molot. There seems to be some extra punch within it compared to to the latest version. I wonder if you could give a brief description how the attack envelope has changed?
Also in 0.2.130 (and only in this version) in RC and diode circuit simulation (for attack/release follower) some kind of signal leak was added. In release state small part of signal passes back through diode and attack circuit. I added it to shorter release time when gain reduction level is small. But it had unexpected side effect of negative compression ratio in some modes. See also bottom of this page: http://wp.me/p1hU3x-2j
No more changes related to envelopes were done.
BTW, what is you "early" version? (see the top left corner of the window)
Vlad from Tokyo Dawn Labs
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 24 Dec, 2004
It's the 0.2.155 I'm using. So if I understood correctly, It's only the butterworth filter that have been replaced since that version? Thanks for the explanation.vladg wrote:BTW, what is you "early" version? (see the top left corner of the window)
Cheers
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 183 posts since 15 Jul, 2009 from Russia
Yes, you understood right. All changes that can affect sound between 155 and the latest version were:s_t wrote:It's the 0.2.155 I'm using. So if I understood correctly, It's only the butterworth filter that have been replaced since that version? Thanks for the explanation.vladg wrote:BTW, what is you "early" version? (see the top left corner of the window)
Cheers
* new dithering (I changed it after reading "Mastering audio: art & science" by Bob Katz);
* fixes for frequency response in oversampling mode (recalculated with higher precision to be more linear);
* and Bessel filter (as I wrote).
Do you think it is useful to add the switch for filter type in new release? Also I prefer sound in new version because it is more "edgy".
Vlad from Tokyo Dawn Labs
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- KVRian
- 1126 posts since 3 Aug, 2004
I say: add it! And see if people respond well to it.vladg wrote:Yes, you understood right. All changes that can affect sound between 155 and the latest version were:s_t wrote:It's the 0.2.155 I'm using. So if I understood correctly, It's only the butterworth filter that have been replaced since that version? Thanks for the explanation.vladg wrote:BTW, what is you "early" version? (see the top left corner of the window)
Cheers
* new dithering (I changed it after reading "Mastering audio: art & science" by Bob Katz);
* fixes for frequency response in oversampling mode (recalculated with higher precision to be more linear);
* and Bessel filter (as I wrote).
Do you think it is useful to add the switch for filter type in new release? Also I prefer sound in new version because it is more "edgy".
no sig
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 24 Dec, 2004
I would love to be able to switch between the old and new filter/envelope mode. Thank you very much.vladg wrote:Do you think it is useful to add the switch for filter type in new release? Also I prefer sound in new version because it is more "edgy".
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- KVRian
- 669 posts since 3 May, 2004
+1 !!!s_t wrote:I would love to be able to switch between the old and new filter/envelope mode. Thank you very much.vladg wrote:Do you think it is useful to add the switch for filter type in new release? Also I prefer sound in new version because it is more "edgy".
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 183 posts since 15 Jul, 2009 from Russia
Okay! Added to my TODO list for the next release. I think I can do it in the second half of january.s_t wrote:I would love to be able to switch between the old and new filter/envelope mode. Thank you very much.vladg wrote:Do you think it is useful to add the switch for filter type in new release? Also I prefer sound in new version because it is more "edgy".
Vlad from Tokyo Dawn Labs
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
what a cool looking interface. will have to give this a shot. thanks for your efforts.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 183 posts since 15 Jul, 2009 from Russia
BUT... I have a doubt is this sound change really related only with filter change?vladg wrote:Okay! Added to my TODO list for the next release. I think I can do it in the second half of january.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18475891/molot- ... ilters.zip
This archive contains GUIless latest windows' 32 & 64 bits versions of Molot with new envelope filter and with filter from 0.2.155. This is the only difference between them.
Can anybody confirm that version from "old_filter" directory sounds more punchier than from "new_filter"? (I seems caught a cold and don't trust my ears today )
Vlad from Tokyo Dawn Labs
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 24 Dec, 2004
Thanks for the files vladg,
Yes, there is perceivable difference for benefit of the old filter version in terms of punchiness. The attack part seems to be fatter and more closer to the listener. You can actually see the difference with a peak meter, too. The old filter version sounds quite identical to 0.2.155 as far as I can tell.
cheers
Yes, there is perceivable difference for benefit of the old filter version in terms of punchiness. The attack part seems to be fatter and more closer to the listener. You can actually see the difference with a peak meter, too. The old filter version sounds quite identical to 0.2.155 as far as I can tell.
cheers
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 183 posts since 15 Jul, 2009 from Russia
Molot 0.3 is out
http://vladgsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
What's new? In short:
1. External stereo sidechaining support (inputs 3 and 4).
2. Additional linear phase oversampling support (latency 344 samples).
In long:
- VU-meter calibrated for -18 dBFS, 300 ms.
- By clicking on triangle in the bottom left corner now all parameter values
are shown. To increase value use the right mouse button. To decrease value
use the left mouse button.
- Automatic "Oversampling" parameter correction in presets when the project
uses high sample rates (the value goes proportionally smaller).
- Choosen language now saving.
- Ability to save current settings as "Default" preset parameters by button
"Save as Default".
* New parameters:
. "Sd.chain" - sidechain commutation:
. "Internal" - use inputs 1 and 2 (as usual)
. "External" - use external stereo sidechain (inputs 3 and 4)
. "A, R Time" - attack and release times multiplier:
. "1:1″ - use times specified (as usual)
. "1/10,1:1″ - attack time 10 times smaller
. "1:1,1/10″ - release time 10 times smaller
. "1/10″ - both attack time and release time 10 times smaller
. "Upsampl." - oversampling type selection
. "Easy" - use simplified oversampling (as usual)
. "Norm." - use linear-phase oversampling (latency 344 samples)
- Attack/release curves were reverted back to 0.2.155 version (see the post above)
NOTE: The plugin uses the same PLUGIN-ID as 0.2.168. You can safely update
old binary with this version.
Thanks to:
Dax Liniere http://www.puzzlefactory.com.au/
Fabien http://www.tokyodawn.net/
PS. Yes, I know this GUI for extended parameters doesn't look so good. It will be changed to more usable one in the next release.
http://vladgsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
What's new? In short:
1. External stereo sidechaining support (inputs 3 and 4).
2. Additional linear phase oversampling support (latency 344 samples).
In long:
- VU-meter calibrated for -18 dBFS, 300 ms.
- By clicking on triangle in the bottom left corner now all parameter values
are shown. To increase value use the right mouse button. To decrease value
use the left mouse button.
- Automatic "Oversampling" parameter correction in presets when the project
uses high sample rates (the value goes proportionally smaller).
- Choosen language now saving.
- Ability to save current settings as "Default" preset parameters by button
"Save as Default".
* New parameters:
. "Sd.chain" - sidechain commutation:
. "Internal" - use inputs 1 and 2 (as usual)
. "External" - use external stereo sidechain (inputs 3 and 4)
. "A, R Time" - attack and release times multiplier:
. "1:1″ - use times specified (as usual)
. "1/10,1:1″ - attack time 10 times smaller
. "1:1,1/10″ - release time 10 times smaller
. "1/10″ - both attack time and release time 10 times smaller
. "Upsampl." - oversampling type selection
. "Easy" - use simplified oversampling (as usual)
. "Norm." - use linear-phase oversampling (latency 344 samples)
- Attack/release curves were reverted back to 0.2.155 version (see the post above)
NOTE: The plugin uses the same PLUGIN-ID as 0.2.168. You can safely update
old binary with this version.
Thanks to:
Dax Liniere http://www.puzzlefactory.com.au/
Fabien http://www.tokyodawn.net/
PS. Yes, I know this GUI for extended parameters doesn't look so good. It will be changed to more usable one in the next release.
Last edited by vladg on Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Vlad from Tokyo Dawn Labs