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rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:24 am

If there was nothing to discover in music, no one would be passionate about making it. Not to mention with that mentality encourages mediocrity

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:48 am

rpc9943 wrote:If there was nothing to discover in music, no one would be passionate about making it. Not to mention with that mentality encourages mediocrity

Sure, we're agreed on that.

Ron, I wish you well with your pursuit of drone music. Honestly, the artists recommended on the previous page are worth listening to (in addition to experimenting with some of the previous excellent software recommendations too), if only to expand your ideas and counter-ideas further.

Music discoveries happen on an individual basis. How those artists, you and all of us create and blend sounds new to us is what gives our music its vitality, but it is still the amalgamation and individual discovery of existing (non-new) sounds and concepts.

I make dub music - I can only succeed in taking this further if I pay attention to what people like King Tubby and Lee Perry did before me and then tally this with ideas and concepts about the existing world which I live in.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:14 am

Really? Sorry, but really?

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:18 am

rpc9943 wrote:Really? Sorry, but really?

Mmm... what's that in relation to Ron?

Please expand.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:21 am

I'd prefer to contract, which is to say, any more drone tool tips I'd be open and glad to know.

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:39 am

Well then, in addition to the excellent previous software recommendations such as PaulStretch and Shimmer (and the very handy advice from Sean), what do you think of SpectrumWorx?
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/spectru ... tle-endian

You may well also generate some interesting starting ideas from Mashtactic:
http://www.quikquak.com/

I've found these two (combined with Shimmer) particularly inspiring during the past few months when creating dubby 'drone' or ambient soundscape music.

Experimenting with programs such as these, allied with a better, open-minded understanding of leading artists, should help you to make some good progress with drone music.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:57 am

Doug1978(tempID) wrote: sorry to disagree, but there aren't any NEW sounds to make.

There are plenty of new sounds to make. They are just getting harder and harder to find. Like new species. We think we know the world, but then a giant spider unknown to science turns up in Laos:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildli ... ekong.html

My goal with future Valhalla DSP plugins is to try and find some of those new sounds. It's going to take a while, though. I need to familiarize myself with some new techniques, and step outside of my modulated delay line comfort zone.

As far as Eno, ValhallaShimmer is saturated with Brian Eno's influence. The specific "shimmer" sound was based on a patch Eno and Lanois created in the early 80's. The timbre and modulation of the reverb in general was based on how Eno and Lanois would abuse the EMT250 and 224 within the context of larger feedback loops.

Meanwhile, my favorite Eno albums are actually his first 3 "rock" solo releases. I could listen to Here Come The Warm Jets nonstop and be happy.

Sean Costello

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:18 am

Interesting post Sean.
PM sent.

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Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:15 am

the smartelectronix transverb is great for drones. if you own reaktor you can make a great granular dronemaker fairly quickly. I don't know if these have been mentioned already.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:05 pm

I have downloaded all of the free ones mentioned in here. Awesome! I also caved in and listened to Brian Eno and came upon this and was BLOWN AWAY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TkLhtXM ... re=related

This is EVERYTHING.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:27 am

Doug1978(tempID) wrote:there aren't any NEW sounds to make.

speak for yourself, you know. that may describe your ability or lack of imagination. the palette in sound is not limited, it's closer to infinitudes...

and they aren't harder to find, 'valhalla'! how can that be, with more and more tools for synthesis and effects? it's absurd.

I recommend VSL Hybrid Reverb!

to rpc: absynth, and long evolving envelopes.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:30 am

rpc9943 wrote:If there was nothing to discover in music, no one would be passionate about making it. Not to mention with that mentality encourages mediocrity

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:38 am

Doug1978(tempID) wrote:
rpc9943 wrote:Really? Sorry, but really?
Mmm... what's that in relation to Ron?

Please expand.

your apparently derivative approach (a better, open-minded understanding of leading artists/dub artists), vs. your pompous 'new to YOU' remarks, maybe? "open-minded" rather clashes with "tally this with ideas and concepts about the existing world which I live in". but of course 'open-minded understanding' is followed by 'of leading artists'.

the most telling thing there is "I can only succeed in taking this further if I pay attention to what people like _ do".

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:51 am

I dunno... this 'POV' seems "timely":

Franz Grillparzer (1791-1872) wrote: Genius differs from talent not by the amount of original thoughts, but by making the latter fertile and by positioning them properly, in other words, by integrating everything into a whole, whereas talent produces only fragments, no matter how beautiful.

(emphasis mine)

Help me figure out the best "Drone" solution for myself...