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codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:43 pm

bungle wrote:Eastwood Mverb and looking forward to getting my hands on the NI Verbs, but i actually haven't got anything from Valhalla yet, Vintage interests me but not the others.

I would say that Shimmer is more specialised. Room is more work a day, journeyman. VVV seems to be the one that captures peoples imaginations for an all purpose versatile unit.

Echoes in the Attic · Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:25 pm

Aside from my Valhalla verbs, I'm quite enjoying 2CAudio B2 and Aether these days. Not sure why exactly. I think they are clear and don't get in the way, so I can crank them and still feel like it's part of the original sound but something new. If that makes sense. Also the NI classic reverbs. Nice and simple with a clean smooth sound. I didn't think I'd care about these since I have VVV, but they came with a Komplete upgrade and I was pleasantly surprised.

bungle · Post by **bungle** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:53 am

codec_spurt wrote:Room is more work a day, journeyman.

I never liked it at all from the demo, maybe i missed something (Very common)
It just lacked anything special at all for me personally.

Integratron · Post by **Integratron** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:13 am

I think the new Sparkverb is insane! I can't run with it 'cause I'm on XP. I could never afford it anyway!

I like the way it sounds.

BReverb is really nice too... also to rich for my wallet!

wsaidah · Post by **wsaidah** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:28 am

i like oxford reverb for its early reflection an you can make nice halls. Empty Room Systems 250 when i need that type verb it gets the call

wsaidah · Post by **wsaidah** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:34 pm

i also use chambers but have to use impulses for that because no one makes a chamber reverb! i use cello studios chambers! if there was a reverb that could do that i would buy it.

Beatworld · Post by **Beatworld** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:54 pm

If you are an AU user you might want to try Airwindows PocketVerbs.

http://www.airwindows.com/pocketverbs.html

Can do the job in a busy mix where you want one instrument to cut through and sound different to everything else.
I have far more reverbs than I need ( including all Valhalla offerings which I love).
The mix I'm working on a the moment has a ukulele in amongst a lot of electric instruments, horn section etc

PocketVerbs Tiled room works great on the uke and places it in its own world within the mix.

Has an interesting gate feature too.
I don't think I would ever use it on an Aux send set up but for use as an insert on individual tracks it can be good.

Kindred · Post by **Kindred** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:07 am

at the moment -

B2 - huge, weird, spacey, eventide-esque, modulating - LOVE IT (I haven't tried aether though but heard that one is also great)

EOS - for the rare times I need a kind of plate-ish sound - the massive hall settings are also great for 80s type stuff but often slightly metallic for my style of music

Eventide H8000 (hardware) - I just sold mine as I couldn't justify holding a five grand reverb machine - the blackhole preset alone is almost worth five grand

Eventide Blackhole (plug) - great for pads and for 'big' sounds

R2 - I only demo'd this but it sounded amazing for lexicon-ish natural sounding big reverbs and small rooms

plus, of course, Ubermod (sorry Sean, I had to mention it - would be criminal for me not to...

)

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:42 am

My BigSky is on its way!

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:42 am

The Cathedral of St. John the Divine in NYC.

Mountain tunnels in the Smoky Mountains -- on a family road trip my dad's van had a goofy warning buzzer that sounded like a tweeting bird, which was on a manual switch instead of going off automatically in reverse. We'd slow down, roll down the windows and he'd hit that on the way through tunnels. (We were from Florida and were easily amused by things like tunnels, rocks, and altitude.)

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:01 am

Wonderful thread, Sean. Coming into it really late, but my earliest memory of really creative use of reverb was in Andreas Vollenweider's 1983 album Caverna Magica. It was such an amazing way to start an album. Seemingly random water droplets in a cave like atmosphere gradually become rhythmic and grow into the backdrop of the song. It had a lasting impression on me and as a kid I'd always assumed it was done in a real space. With older ears I assume that couldn't have been the case. Vollenweider's early 80s album were so beautifully mixed.

The droplets begin at the ~30 second mark or so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEJ74n9b4Y

Beatworld · Post by **Beatworld** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:19 am

Tronam wrote:but my earliest memory of really creative use of reverb was in Andreas Vollenweider's 1983 album Caverna Magica. It was such an amazing way to start an album. Seemingly random water droplets in a cave like atmosphere gradually become rhythmic and grow into the backdrop of the song. It had a lasting impression on me and as a kid I'd always assumed it was done in a real space. With older ears I assume that couldn't have been the case. Vollenweider's early 80s album were so beautifully mixed.

Absolutely agree.
Caverna Magica and "Behind The Gardens, Behind The Wall, Under The Tree" are both master pieces of production and fabulous showcases of great use of great reverbs.

Timeless albums.

Rah · Post by **Rah** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:25 am

I've been slowly reading (and listening) my way through the entirety this thread. It's one of my favourite things on KVR.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:33 am

wsaidah wrote:i also use chambers but have to use impulses for that because no one makes a chamber reverb! i use cello studios chambers! if there was a reverb that could do that i would buy it.

Well, plenty of reverbs have a Chamber algorithm. Which usually sounds like a Lexicon Chamber. The 224XL Rich Chamber and later algorithms sound dense, but relatively "neutral" - not as metallic as a plate. So I guess they could, arguably, be seen as similar to physical reverb chambers. The earlier Lexicon Chamber (which I heard last week in the 224XL) is CRAZY metallic and weird.

Most "room" reverbs should probably be called chamber algorithms, as it is within the realm of reason for a digital reverb to reach the modal density of a reverb chamber. I should figure out the Schroeder frequency for a "typical" reverb chamber, to see if I am correct in saying this.

Sean Costello

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:35 am

Tronam wrote:Wonderful thread, Sean. Coming into it really late, but my earliest memory of really creative use of reverb was in Andreas Vollenweider's 1983 album Caverna Magica. It was such an amazing way to start an album. Seemingly random water droplets in a cave like atmosphere gradually become rhythmic and grow into the backdrop of the song. It had a lasting impression on me and as a kid I'd always assumed it was done in a real space. With older ears I assume that couldn't have been the case. Vollenweider's early 80s album were so beautifully mixed.

The droplets begin at the ~30 second mark or so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEJ74n9b4Y

Very well done! The reverb time is different for different droplets, and gets shorter when the rhythm starts, so it is probably a synthetic reverb. It could theoretically be a real plate, but I'm going to guess Lex 224, as this got popular real quickly within New Age circles.

Sean Costello

What are your favorite non-Valhalla reverbs, and why?