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PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 pm

The TC Powercore still has some of the best reverbs.

For some reason they just sit in the mix nicely.

Ircam verbs are also nice, especially when on sale.

Lexicon LXP is good for the current sale price.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:29 pm

Hink wrote: No offense Sean, it has nothing to do with you

Hey, no offense taken. This is a Valhalla free thread! From my initial thread starting post:

- No Valhalla DSP reverbs, please. I would like this to be a marketing/spin free zone, and am thus removing my plugins from this discussion. I want to keep the discussion about the WHY of reverbs, as opposed to discussions of one brand versus another.

The "marketing/spin free zone" hasn't been adhered to that well lately, but hey, I guess some people can't help themselves. It's like Little Dot being crazy about dots, or the Trix Rabbit being crazy about Trix, or the Cocoa Puffs bird, or other sad cartoon characters with personality disorders.

Sean Costello

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:01 am

edit: nevermind

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:03 am

Also, these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpwWYOE3Y9o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxBc_-XxmI

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:17 am

@midnight wrote:Also, these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpwWYOE3Y9o

It's hard to tell from the YouTube clip. The early lead sound seems like a straight digital delay, or maybe a physical plate reverb (EMT140), as there isn't any of the characteristic spatial "motion" you would get from an EMT250 or Lexicon 224. After about 1:30, the lead sound starts to get much "fuller." This sounds like what you get with a Lexicon Concert Hall algorithm (224 or 224XL during this time period), but it could also be overdubbing of other instruments in the stereo field.

That is what is amazing about that original Concert Hall algorithm: the modulation and low tap density adds a ton of width and movement to the sound. The modulation in my PCM70 is a LOT faster than what you might expect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxBc_-XxmI[/quote]

I don't hear much reverb in there, but I didn't listen to closely. I am trying to finish up some work tonight, and I don't want to fall into the trap of listening to John Carpenter synth work all night. It's happened before...OH HERE I GO AGAIN!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNfDSNG7Y0g

Any reverb that isn't coming from the spring reverb in the big Moog is probably EMT140 plate. There wasn't much else back then, and there is no way that this would have been recorded in a studio with a high quality reverb chamber.

Sean Costello

Conjecture · Post by **Conjecture** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:17 pm

I know the original rule was one per post, but these all seem to get at the same sound to me, so I'll cheat a bit. Here are a few of my favorite tracks - The sense of space in these has always been a huge factor in why I love them, and while I'll admit it's often largely created by delay effects, reverb certainly plays a large role as well.

Really, I think it's the way that the two effects are combined and then contrasted against dry sources which really does it for me, so maybe in these examples it's the method of use as much as the actual sound of the reverb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzCSMJOe0mg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvp_s3U4c5c

I could probably post the entire Fahrenheit Fair Enough album on here as well, but I'll just pull one example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bISLAxi8yXc

- Can't seem to get the videos to embed even though the post preview is okay... hrm

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:28 pm

It always amazes me when new people can join with such good names. Now I'm stuck with this ol' hag and could have had something cool like "conjecture"

Seriously, I like that name

Conjecture · Post by **Conjecture** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:33 pm

A fun one:

Here's a balloon pop recording I made with Jonathan Abel in an alley in palo alto, CA which has been referred to as either Jonathan's Alley, F# Alley, or "the alley across the street from the nuthouse" by CCRMA kids...

http://www.seancoffin.com/alley/Balloon_4_Cut.wav

Just a little comb-y.

And thanks about the name

. I went through a pretty long list when I was trying to come up with a name I could eventually use for a little audio plug-in company because I wanted to find a matching url (which, as it turns out, is hard). This is what I ended up with.

- Is there a minimum post count to post links? These things keep working out in my previews but not the actual posts...

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:47 pm

Conjecture wrote:A fun one:

Here's a balloon pop recording I made with Jonathan Abel in an alley in palo alto, CA which has been referred to as either Jonathan's Alley, F# Alley, or "the alley across the street from the nuthouse" by CCRMA kids...

http://www.seancoffin.com/alley/Balloon_4_Cut.wav

Just a little comb-y.

Oh, that WACKY Jonathan Abel!

That's a photo of Jonathan going WAY over my head at a summer CCRMA workshop.

And yeah, Conjecture is a good name.

Sean Costello

Conjecture · Post by **Conjecture** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:23 am

A sight and experience I am familiar with

Conjecture · Post by **Conjecture** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:37 am

Always kinda liked this one, asymmetrical slapback and all. Really gives me the impression of amplified sound going into a big empty room / concert hall. Pretty washy and wet at times, but never messes with the clarity of the guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X30AroojjFk

Also, this thread is really great.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:51 am

Recording drums in this space was amazing. A pretty crappy looking warehouse, but really great sonics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNHDjEe4xbE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYXaMNMrQ-M

Conjecture · Post by **Conjecture** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:52 am

One final one and I'll stop spamming this thread for a while.

I really love the reverb used on Dj Shadow's Entroducing. I'd love to hear any insight you have about it, Sean. This CD really turned me on to nice, fairly dark and dense reverb sounds as well as the creative use of asymmetric and varying reverb sounds rather than always going for a full stereo, balanced image. Half the time on this CD reverb sends are only coming back on one channel, or the two channels have very different treatments (possibly often due to the use of samples), and I find that it can be really nice at times. Also, having some vinyl crackle around seems to help light up reverbs in a particular way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcxsheROd3E

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:48 am

I like Glaceverb.

Maybe because it was one of the first free reverbs I came across.
It sounds a bit 'odd' now. Compared to finer, more expensive ones.
But I still use it, in subtle amounts.

It adds reverb. But it adds something else too.
I don't know what. A certain je ne sais quoi.

I might have all the best reverbs in the world, but this plugin does something special, when dialed in at small amounts.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:57 am

Amberience wrote:Recording drums in this space was amazing. A pretty crappy looking warehouse, but really great sonics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNHDjEe4xbE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYXaMNMrQ-M

That IS a pretty crappy looking warehouse. I can't figure out if it doubles as a used furniture store, or if people were living there while recording. Sounds great, though. I wouldn't want to hear guitars in that space, but the drums are pretty amazing.

The Tacoma Narrows Bridge is about 1/2 hour south of me. It's a lot safer now.

Sean Costello

What are your favorite non-Valhalla reverbs, and why?