This new SSL channel strip from IK Multimedia looks great
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 18 Oct, 2004
yeah that GUI looks atrocious, particularly for a company so obsessed with marketing like IK Marketmedia.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
when did fisher-price start making plugins ?? .....hibidy wrote:OUCH, my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!paterpeter wrote:
j/k Haven't tested it yet. It might well be that it sounds fantastic.
'MY FIRST CHANNEL STRIP'
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- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
Honestly, and I'm probably going to get flack for saying this, but I don't think the GUI is really that bad. I personally think that some are overreacting to it. Don't get me wrong, I can understand that everyone has different tastes, and not everyone will see it the same way.
But I find it odd how many people here will complain when somebody makes a flashy GUI for a crappy plugin and say that looks don't matter, the sound is all that matters. But then when a good plugin(I'm assuming, as I haven't tried it) has a "bad" GUI, all of a sudden it matters.
Just strange to me.
Not that it matters much as I can't afford much new stuff these days, so I won't be able to buy it or the other plugins any time soon. Nice to see some new additions to the selection though.
Brent
But I find it odd how many people here will complain when somebody makes a flashy GUI for a crappy plugin and say that looks don't matter, the sound is all that matters. But then when a good plugin(I'm assuming, as I haven't tried it) has a "bad" GUI, all of a sudden it matters.
Just strange to me.
Not that it matters much as I can't afford much new stuff these days, so I won't be able to buy it or the other plugins any time soon. Nice to see some new additions to the selection though.
Brent
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- KVRAF
- 10250 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
SSL = Simply Silly Looking?
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- KVRAF
- 6254 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Glad you said it first, but I'm with you on this. Sure it's not photorealistic, but does it have to be? Actually, it reminds me of some of the Krackli GUI's, which I always found to be colorful and charming.koolkeys wrote:Honestly, and I'm probably going to get flack for saying this, but I don't think the GUI is really that bad. I personally think that some are overreacting to it. Don't get me wrong, I can understand that everyone has different tastes, and not everyone will see it the same way.
But I find it odd how many people here will complain when somebody makes a flashy GUI for a crappy plugin and say that looks don't matter, the sound is all that matters. But then when a good plugin(I'm assuming, as I haven't tried it) has a "bad" GUI, all of a sudden it matters.
Just strange to me.
Not that it matters much as I can't afford much new stuff these days, so I won't be able to buy it or the other plugins any time soon. Nice to see some new additions to the selection though.
Brent
Cheers
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Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
- KVRAF
- 10250 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I agree that the sound is the most important factor and, despite how hideous I think this plugin is, I don't think that it's unusable (although it is fun to poke fun at it). It just seems very uncharacteristic of IK to release something with a GUI that is so cheap-ish/amateur looking when their other plugins all look pretty nice and professional IMO. Besides, I'm waiting for them to let us in on the joke - i.e., that this was just a windup to draw attention to their new plugin before showing us the "real" GUI.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 7863 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
First off, I'm Peter as per my user name. Second, I really didn't intend to piss you off. You can download and see how it sounds (since Custom Shop adds the "Try" functionality to T-RackS) but I don't see how a GUI is going to make people question DSP programming. However, I understand your point now that you elaborated (but I still don't agree). I guess something that made no logical connection to me seemed like a potshot, so thanks for clarifying that it wasn't. This is no tinker toy. I hope you try it and see.bk wrote:Potshot? Seriously?!Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:What areas? A GUI is a choice and there are varying opinions. I think that's a mountain out of a molehill, that statement about "other areas". Or was that just a good opportunity for some potshot? Just be clear, and we'll try to answer your concerns.bk wrote: GUIs like that will surely make people question your decisions in other areas...
I said I'm an IK fan. Or at least I was...
It's an opportunity to make my feelings known about one of your new products.
I'm offering my opinion that a gui like that will make people question the dsp behind the gui. Take the advice or don't. I couldn't possibly care less. But you HAVE to realize this is a possibility. When people see tinkertoys, they think tinkertoys.
Believe it or not, sometimes criticism is given by well meaning folks to improve a product/reputation, not to say "IK sucks".
Way to piss off a loyal customer, Pete.
Also, I find that points like the one made about long-term usability and how it may be hard to do so for the user that made the point are far more realistic observations about a GUI. But again, I understand now that yours wasn't a potshot and your opinion is as valid as any other though I find no logical connection between a GUI like this and the sound quality/DSP programming of said plugin.
To try it, just download T-RackS Custom Shop free version at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/trcs if you'd like
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- KVRAF
- 1622 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Paris, France
Well, not a fan of these knobs, but looks a lot better overall.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:...and I also thought the new Quad GUIs made people think they were iOS!
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- KVRist
- 441 posts since 30 Apr, 2008 from St Louis, MO
The gui is fine for me. I just would like a frequency graph added for visual feedback of the EQ curve. Otherwise, knob layout is pretty similar to Sonnox EQ. The colors clearly separate each EQ band set of controls.koolkeys wrote:Honestly, and I'm probably going to get flack for saying this, but I don't think the GUI is really that bad.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 652 posts since 28 Dec, 2011 from Seattle,WA, USA
I still like the GUI. The color scheme isn't the best but the layout is what I really like. I will be getting this very soon.
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- KVRAF
- 1622 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Paris, France
See, the point with vintage analog gear, is to mix with your ears.Kevin63101 wrote:The gui is fine for me. I just would like a frequency graph added for visual feedback of the EQ curve. Otherwise, knob layout is pretty similar to Sonnox EQ. The colors clearly separate each EQ band set of controls.koolkeys wrote:Honestly, and I'm probably going to get flack for saying this, but I don't think the GUI is really that bad.
Glad that there's at least no graph.
It influence people too much, me too.
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- KVRist
- 360 posts since 25 May, 2011
How unfortunate. I had a few bucks put aside for this but I can't justify spending anything on that abomination.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Ok. I think I've finally got an understanding of what is going on here.
New models are now a CS option.
New models not favorable to some GUI wise, especially the british channel
Is that accurate (filtering out the other stuff?)
New models are now a CS option.
New models not favorable to some GUI wise, especially the british channel
Is that accurate (filtering out the other stuff?)