KVR Audio

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:10 am

Wow, that's really bad.

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:23 am

hibidy wrote:I have a funny (or sad maybe? ) story about the NI vs VVV testing I was doing. I kept changing the presets on NI's 24 and was like "wow, this sounds great".......

It was VVV Placebo and perception CLEARLY play a roll in things. Yep, the old fart is learning.......

Ha-Ha!

Definitely funny. Although, if the price is right, you might consider buying the Placebo. I've heard great things about it.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:43 am

I just thought it was funny because it happens to people. I hear stories about it all the time and it's just so true about perception. I'm still a bit confused because I know I was listening to small halls in the 24 and then thought that I moved the "mid" slider and made it bigger. Must have accidentally switched to a/b those and then had the brain-fart.

Oh well, good news for people thinking about VVV

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:20 am

You two who linked soundcloud ambient/drone stuff ... Fantastic stuff!!!!

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:30 pm

hibidy wrote:I just thought it was funny because it happens to people. I hear stories about it all the time and it's just so true about perception. I'm still a bit confused because I know I was listening to small halls in the 24 and then thought that I moved the "mid" slider and made it bigger. Must have accidentally switched to a/b those and then had the brain-fart.

Oh well, good news for people thinking about VVV

I've done stuff like that before. I was comparing VeeThree to another plugin, and VeeThree sounded HORRIBLE. Compared to the plugin I was testing, it was metallic as all get out. Then I realized that I was running through both plugins in series. I turned off the other plugin, and Vee3 sounded like it was supposed to.

Sean Costello

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:25 am

People who don't have have such a story to tell (or to keep for themselves) didn't turn enough knobs in their lives.

The most embarassing thing is when you "hear" the difference even though the unit is switched off.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am

...or they never switch off their units because they don't do A/B.

trance_lucent · Post by **trance_lucent** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:06 am

Perhaps I missed it, how the Size knob is scaling in meters? Is it possible to translate percents to meters or vice versa? May be it is variable for various algorithms?

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:32 pm

trance_lucent wrote:Perhaps I missed it, how the Size knob is scaling in meters? Is it possible to translate percents to meters or vice versa? May be it is variable for various algorithms?

My Size control is in % instead of meters, because the meter measurements in algorithmic reverbs are usually total bull****. A room that has a longest dimension of 39 meters would have a modal density a few orders of magnitude greater than a Lexicon algorithm that displays that size.

Plus, these algorithms aren't rooms. They are a bunch of allpass delays in a loop. Nothing physical whatsoever.

Just so things are clear, the strength of my reaction has nothing to do with your question (which is a fair enough question). I just get bugged by this weird "meters" convention, which puts this inaccurate physical dimension on some algorithms that are not physically based.

In ValhallaVintageVerb, the Size percentage just goes from "smallest" to "largest." The ratio between small and large, and the maximum size of large, depends on the reverb mode being used. For example, Chamber has a much wider variation than Room. I based the Size in Room on the measured variation in a PCM60. Getting much smaller or much bigger with that algorithm sounded kinda weird, so I kept things in the measured range.

Sean Costello

David Else · Post by **David Else** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:56 pm

Hi Sean,

I am going to demo this reverb soon (on headphones) and just wanted to ask if the 1.01 version is out soon? Its just I read somewhere there might be a loud noise bug in 1.0 and don't want my ears exploding

Cheers

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:16 pm

thermal wrote:Hi Sean,

I am going to demo this reverb soon (on headphones) and just wanted to ask if the 1.01 version is out soon? Its just I read somewhere there might be a loud noise bug in 1.0 and don't want my ears exploding

I'm still getting feedback from the beta, so the 1.0.1 release won't be out for "a little bit" (deliberately undefined unit of time). I haven't had any noise burst issues with the latest beta, but this has been a totally rare and random bug. About 1% of users have had the burst, and it almost always happens once or twice without being repeatable. I found a memory leak that is fixed in the latest beta, which might have been the cause of the noise issues.

Sean Costello

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:32 pm

Sean, is there a reason you are not answering you mails ?

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:34 pm

BTW, to rephrase Jack Black :

Are your plugs about love, about vikings, or about vikings making love ?...

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:35 pm

How do we receive the latest beta?

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:47 pm

Tp3 wrote:Sean, is there a reason you are not answering you mails ?

?

I'm pretty caught up on answering emails right now. If your email hasn't been answered, try sending it again. I get a LOT of emails, and occasionally one falls through the cracks.

Sean Costello

ValhallaVintageVerb 1.7.1. Two new reverb modes (Chaotic Hall, Chaotic Chamber)