ValhallaVintageVerb 1.7.1. Two new reverb modes (Chaotic Hall, Chaotic Chamber)
- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
Naaa... you're probably messing with the "Cat-Off" Control...hibidy wrote:What I meant was, the cats FREQUENTLY vamoose when I start clanking around. Amplified sounds are particularly unacceptable to them
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
My dog only falls asleep when i play the guitar ...... maybe i should get a cat-critic as well!
- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
Well, in that case, I guess the famous slogan "DO NOT BOOST, CAT !" applies...hibidy wrote:haha, my cats would FREAK if I played random noises the speakers. In fact, they are my worst critic
When they can sleep around w/o running, I know I'm onto something
Professional technicians are assessed by the abilities they possess.
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
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Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
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- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
Back to original topic...
Sean said :
Sean said :
Over the last week or so, I found myself drawn time and again towards VVV. I THINK that the term "wider" applies to what >I< perceive when processing with VVV.valhallasound wrote:The ValhallaRoom algorithms were designed to avoid the artifacts heard in many algorithmic reverbs (especially around the "diffusion" control), while VintageVerb embraces these artifacts. VRoom is smoother to my ears, while VintageVerb sounds wider and deeper.
Professional technicians are assessed by the abilities they possess.
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
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Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
Me too. This will be added to ValhallaRoom in a future update. Not sure if it will be in the next VR update, as it will entail some GUI redesign. I think the next ValhallaRoom update will be pretty simple (fix dual screen issue for Pro Tools, fix downsampling issue), but we'll see what I get accomplished while I am tinkering around in there.hibidy wrote:The low cut is dreamy. I miss having this on VR.
Sean Costello
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
I keep trying to figure out exactly why that is, i.e. why VeeThree is wider.Tp3 wrote:Back to original topic...
Sean said :
Over the last week or so, I found myself drawn time and again towards VVV. I THINK that the term "wider" applies to what >I< perceive when processing with VVV.valhallasound wrote:The ValhallaRoom algorithms were designed to avoid the artifacts heard in many algorithmic reverbs (especially around the "diffusion" control), while VintageVerb embraces these artifacts. VRoom is smoother to my ears, while VintageVerb sounds wider and deeper.
My guess is that it has to do with how spatial energy mixes in the late decay. In ValhallaRoom, I allow the user to control the rate of energy mixing between left and right, so that a signal in the left channel can stay mostly in the left channel, or quickly be in both left and right channels (and vice versa). The VeeThree algorithms have the spatial mixing "baked into" the algorithm, and it pretty much always bounces back and forth between left and right channels. Which has nothing to do with how a "real" room works, but helps things to sound nice and wide.
Sean Costello
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- KVRAF
- 6741 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Whats the downsampling issue?valhallasound wrote: fix downsampling issue
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
The downsampling isn't working quite how I intended it to. A bit noisier than the downsampling in VintageVerb.IIRs wrote:Whats the downsampling issue?valhallasound wrote: fix downsampling issue
Sean Costello
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- KVRAF
- 6741 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
That's funny.... that's EXACTLY whet Matt (the developer of Reverberate) said in a discussion I was involved here. he also said that the modulation has "nothing to do with how a 'real' room works" (or something similar), but he found that users loved this affect when it comes to Reverbs, so he keeps it like that...valhallasound wrote:The VeeThree algorithms have the spatial mixing "baked into" the algorithm, and it pretty much always bounces back and forth between left and right channels. Which has nothing to do with how a "real" room works, but helps things to sound nice and wide.
Sean Costello
Professional technicians are assessed by the abilities they possess.
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
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Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
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- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
Well, shouldn't you know ?! you programmed the damn thing !valhallasound wrote:I keep trying to figure out exactly why that is, i.e. why VeeThree is wider.
Professional technicians are assessed by the abilities they possess.
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
(Gabe Dumbbell)
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
(Gabe Dumbbell)
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- KVRAF
- 2746 posts since 13 Feb, 2012 from Amsterdam
I sometimes am under the impression that designing reverbs is something of a black art. Hard to master, full of hidden mysteries, and always subject of some debate.Tp3 wrote:Well, shouldn't you know ?! you programmed the damn thing !valhallasound wrote:I keep trying to figure out exactly why that is, i.e. why VeeThree is wider.