I have all of the GM plugins. They are great for ambient. Just use a very slow tempo. You will be amazed at the depth and variety of sounds they make then.I would like to know if
ambient can be produeced from Polygon and/or Cataract.
Glitchmachines Plugins - Anyone?
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- KVRian
- 878 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1372 posts since 16 Jan, 2004
Thanks cron - good insight here. Appreciatedcron wrote:Polygon is absolutely fantastic. Shame it's monophonic. It's sold as a 'spot machine' effect, but turns out to be one of the most powerful monophonic samplers around. Which kind of brings me to the downside (for me)...
The plugs largely feel like they're engineered to achieve a certain sound rather than being open-ended tools. Take Polygon for instance - it's difficult to pitch the audio accurately in grains mode, and for some of its life (IIRC this has now been fixed) actual transposition values didn't match what was shown on the GUI. It was purely engineered as a 'spot-effect' machine, and little things like the transposition bug slipping by indicate that there wasn't really any time invested as seeing it as possibly being anything other than a spot machine effect during development.
There are a lot of little niggles like this throughout the range which indicate a kind of narrowness of sonic focus during development. The sample pack I have of theirs has kind of the same issue. The samples are very severely top and tailed, and the natural decay of the sounds is never allowed to ring out. The shop described the usage case as 'granulator fodder' IIRC, and sure enough the samples are edited in such a way that leaves them pretty much unusable in any other context.
I'd still recommend their stuff despite this though. I own 5 or so things from them and I keep going back, despite the caveats. Quality plugs at a brilliant price if there's a certain sonic gap in your arsenal that needs filling.
I did notice their free samples are very often truncated. Too bad. But still usable, as you said, as fodder. And again, I like the samples themselves - and I'm assuming that they were created with their plugins, so that bodes well.
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I appreciate all the replies here, guys. Good stuff
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- KVRAF
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Thanks for the suggestion.ravasb wrote:I would like to know if
ambient can be produeced from Polygon and/or Cataract.
I have all of the GM plugins. They are great for ambient. Just use a very slow tempo. You will be amazed at the depth and variety of sounds they make then.
Now we're talking!
"amazed at the depth and variety of sounds they make then"
Now tempted to buy!
Oh, part of the reason I did not pull the trigger was the these plugins are monophonic!
In any case the sale is over.
Will wait for the next Black Friday.
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
I messed with (free) Glitchmachines plugins, but eventually couldn't make anything musical / usable with them. These are fun and inspirational, but their principle of operation seems to cryptic to me. Deleted these just a few days ago.
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- KVRAF
- 4064 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I have all of the plugins. They are great for sound design and aggressive weirdness. The only one that I don't ever use is the sampler. It's a bit time consuming to program for not a lot of payoff in my opinion. The modular rack thingy is spectacular as well as the three path distortion plugin. Really they are so cheap that unless you don't have use for insane distortions and bizarre broken buffer effects there's not much reason to not give them a try.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1372 posts since 16 Jan, 2004
My short experience with the 2 free ones - I'm able to get something usable out of them, but for things like creating little short sounds and hits. Sending something like a kick drum immediately followed by an FM bass through some of the presets in Hysteresis yielded some very cool things. Again, the idea being to record/resample back into the DAW, and then cut out the good stuff for reuse.DJ Warmonger wrote:I messed with (free) Glitchmachines plugins, but eventually couldn't make anything musical / usable with them. These are fun and inspirational, but their principle of operation seems to cryptic to me. Deleted these just a few days ago.
But I suppose it depends on what one is striving for. I was looking to take something good and make it better and more interesting, and it did take some effort to get there.
Anyway, unfortunately it seems that there's not a lot of videos available that show what the pay-for plugins can do, in the sense of before and after type of scenarios. The audio demos for these show that some interesting results can be achieved, but there's not a good sense of where someone started, particularly with regard to the effects plugins (vs "synth" plugins).
- KVRer
- 13 posts since 30 Sep, 2007 from NYC
Hey, I'm sorry to reply on this old post, but I couldn't find much glitchmachines stuff online. But I have a problem with subvert. When I click the on boxes in each section, or it's already clicked, nothing turns on. I turn it off then turn it on again, but the module/section doesn't turn on. Is this a glitch or has anyone ever experienced this? I read though the manual and it didn't mention this.
Thanks
Thanks
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Sorry if you've already tried this, but bypass isn't engaged at the bottom on the channel you're adjusting is it?Deefex wrote:Hey, I'm sorry to reply on this old post, but I couldn't find much glitchmachines stuff online. But I have a problem with subvert. When I click the on boxes in each section, or it's already clicked, nothing turns on. I turn it off then turn it on again, but the module/section doesn't turn on. Is this a glitch or has anyone ever experienced this? I read though the manual and it didn't mention this.
Thanks
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- KVRAF
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Veeery interested in PALINDROME and Polygon and Cataract
But at $5 hard to pass up.
Yes I go it!
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Hope that on Black Friday they have a sale on my favorite three that I cannot pass up.
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRAF
- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
#MeTooKalamata Kid wrote:Veeery interested in PALINDROME and Polygon and Cataract
But at $5 hard to pass up.
Yes I go it!
and
Hope that on Black Friday they have a sale on my favorite three that I cannot pass up.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
- KVRian
- 1403 posts since 30 Mar, 2014
I had Quadrant when it was first released (under a different name, don’t remember the original name), it’s a hard one to use. But if you stick with it, you can do thing with it that you simply couldn’t do with anything else.
Plus, my experience with the developer was a good one, which is always a plus.
Plus, my experience with the developer was a good one, which is always a plus.
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- KVRian
- 1090 posts since 24 Jul, 2018
Okay so out of Quadrant, Fracture XT, and Cataract which one of them can I actually get a bar to glitch with like a Sugar Bytes effect because they're all on a $2 sale right now.
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- KVRian
- 899 posts since 22 Nov, 2017
Fracture XT has been updated and now is avaiable with a new AND re-sizeable beautiful and most usable GUI. It´s a joy and the plugin is a blast anyway.
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- KVRist
- 74 posts since 17 Sep, 2005
I'm an Ambient Glitch producer. These plugins are geared more towards Electro and perhaps for Psytrance EFX. Most of the sounds are extremely obnoxious to me and I wouldn't ever use them.
- KVRian
- 1280 posts since 26 Mar, 2004 from UK
Quadrant was released as Scope, but changed due to a trademark issue around April 2014. Apologies for the slight necro-reply.
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