please help guys - mixing vocals and mastering - how to get a clean sound

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Hi i am nearly giving up my music carreer - can't get my vocals sound good and mastering is so bad and noise- please help - please recommend simple ways to get mastering wright and how to get good professional sounding vocals - please recommend some plugins or effects or people who can do cheap price mixing mastering, thanks

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There are no "simple ways", it's a complex subject. If you ask specific questions, you could get specific answers.
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a) How to: Recording and mixing vocals
b) How to: Mastering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPJOCjeneg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Jx2h-lQkA
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Aloysius wrote:a) How to: Recording and mixing vocals
b) How to: Mastering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPJOCjeneg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Jx2h-lQkA
thanks buddy these videos are very helpful. bless u

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DJ Warmonger wrote:There are no "simple ways", it's a complex subject. If you ask specific questions, you could get specific answers.
thanks buddy for replying .

basically when i record vocals , there is no energy in vocals - i know i need effects doubler or pitching, tuning and stuff, also mastering sound very noise when i finish my track.

can you suggest something.

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Do what I did. Learn. I was an absolute train wreck when it came to mixing and mastering songs. Not that I'm anywhere near a professional now, I've come a long way.

Sadly, there is no quick fix for your problem and, believe it or not, no plugin is going to fix what's wrong unless you...

1) Learn how to use it.

2) Learn how to listen critically to identify precisely what's wrong.

The "professional" recordings you hear are made by guys with years in the business who have paid their dues.

I've at least reached a point where I can listen to a vocal, hear that it's buried in the mix and know right away that there are probably instruments taking up the same frequencies and I need to use EQ to remove some of those frequencies. And that's just for starters. The vocal itself may need to be EQ'd and compressed. Maybe a DeEsser.

Wish I could help you more. Watching tons of YouTube videos and even a few Groove 3 tutorials is what helped me a lot. If you heard my very old stuff from the 80s and 90s and my stuff today, it's night and day. Of course back then, I knew absolutely nothing. I didn't even know what an EQ and compressor were.

Take your time, get the education you need, and try to enjoy the journey because it's a very long one.

I know, because I'm still on it.

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Some tips, make sure at the recording stage that you have as little noise and room reverb/noise as possible.

I belive many people use something like the LA-2A on the vocals to make it punchy, dry vocals can sound too dynamic between the lowest and highest energy level. If the singer moves too much etc. If youre on Logic, theres an opto mode in the compressor, you can look up on youtube how to set it up like an LA-2A.

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kaushal83 wrote: basically when i record vocals , there is no energy in vocals - i know i need effects doubler or pitching, tuning and stuff, also mastering sound very noise when i finish my track.

can you suggest something.
We need little bit more info still. "No energy" could mean they are not bright enough, not loud enough, not interesting enough... Pitch-correction will only help with tuning. Doubling can help the vocal sit in the mix but won't make it brighter or harsher. The answer may well be to record another take and sing louder!

Can you give an example of the kind of vocal sound you are aiming for?

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kaushal83 wrote:
Aloysius wrote:a) How to: Recording and mixing vocals
b) How to: Mastering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPJOCjeneg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Jx2h-lQkA
thanks buddy these videos are very helpful. bless u
It would be pretty standard to split those verse vocals and chorus vocals to two different tracks and process them differently.

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A lot of noise? I can suggest something. Process the files thru a noise gate or manually cut the noise out between words in an audio editor.
Recording several takes and mixing them together is better than any doubler
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It's like riding a bike. You can't do it until you can... Been told how to isn't going to magically make you be able to do it.

That's the secret to a good mix (and all things). If we could be told the secret, we wouldn't understand it anyways. We might understand the words but there's 2 different kinds of knowing. You have to train your self in the repeated doing to respond to what it is that needs fixing in the mix, like maintaining balance on a bike. Which if sticking with the bike analogy, the extra beauty is you don't actually need to know the ins and outs, all the science and technical specifics to be able to do it. Non of us know (in words) the finer details of micro adjustments in muscle movements to not fall of but yet we can still ride.

But the problem most of us have is we compare our selves to the best in the field. These people dictate how sound sounds anyways, different tonal balances fall from fashion. They also learn on the best with the best. They aren't simply riding, maintaining balance (fixing the mix), they are doing all the stunts they possibly can and more!
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kaushal83 wrote:Hi i am nearly giving up my music carreer
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Good point,Mitchiemasha. Plenty of acts make it in the world without sounding slick & polished
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