KVR Audio

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:57 pm

Instabuy @ $10...

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:53 pm

pekbro wrote:Instabuy @ $10...

$10?

I see $19?

MogwaiBoy · Post by **MogwaiBoy** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:59 pm

We should compile and grow a master list of plugins that instantly crash Plugindoctor. I'm sure DDMF are watching this thread, or we can forward the list to him/them anyway.

Also, anyone else experience this? When you install the app it doesn't create a shortcut on your desktop or in the Windows start menu, which is a little odd. You have to launch the app directly from the exe in the folder. So it doesn't really install like a proper app?

Man, checkout Cleansweep Pro through this thing if you have it - there's some crazy shit happening down in the frequency abyss.

Let's start posting pics of interesting finds, too!

*nerdddd*

Rockatansky · Post by **Rockatansky** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:19 am

Really cool, true instabuy. Wish it had an icon, looks lost in my Dock.

Thing I noticed: if the linear range is changed in settings, the value around the mouse cursor doesn't adjust to the new range, it stays set to the +/- 10dB. (See attached image.)

Also pretty weird that signal generator frequencies can only be picked from a dropdown rather than entered as an absolute value, I'd love to have dead-on 100 Hz or 1 kHz sines to check. But I guess that has something to do with "staying inside FFT bins".

Since not all plugins have a Bypass button, it would be great to have one in the plugin window. Yes, even in this scenario it would be helpful.

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:29 am

Robert Randolph wrote:
pekbro wrote:Instabuy @ $10...
$10?

I see $19?

Sry, 50% off for previous customers, code received via email.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:19 am

MogwaiBoy wrote:Finally a 64-bit VST analyzer! Time to get my geek on...

Er.... this was possible for actually quite a while now already... not as standalone tool, mind you. But possible - from within your DAW even. If you knew "how" (already hearing the experts rolling in with this device though)

I'll be looking at this spiritual successor the next days... see how usable it actually is. But I'm so used to using my host and custom test signals for years at this point (recently needed merely 20min for testing a Logic Pro X host bundled plugin), that maybe this standalone came out a bit too late.

YMMV

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:35 am

Clearly a convenience utility, it even takes screenshots. Nothing wrong with
doing it the long way, but this literally takes about 1 sec to deploy and use.

Is it going to be useful? The guy's an actual physicist... I'm sure it's safe to
take his word for it, should you have need of it.

-Cheers

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:56 am

Tip (saw this suggested at Gearslutz, so not my idea): for those who want to use Waves plugins or multiple plugins, you can always load a VST plugin chainer like Patchwork. Kind of a clever way of expanding what this is capable of.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:45 am

imrae wrote:Very exciting! A few issues from playing with the demo:

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No controls for Airwindows plugins makes me sad I was looking forwards to using this to compare the transfer curves and frequency response of quirky airwindows filters and comps to stuff with fancy GUIs.

Yea, kinda strange cause DDMF's Metaplugin CAN load GUI-less plugs into a generic shell...

Niowiad · Post by **Niowiad** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:23 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Tip (saw this suggested at Gearslutz, so not my idea): for those who want to use Waves plugins or multiple plugins, you can always load a VST plugin chainer like Patchwork. Kind of a clever way of expanding what this is capable of.

I'll look this up, thanks.
Just bought it. Loving it so far.

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:59 am

I've seen examples of where this sort of analyser is useful. But in general what would you use it for? As in day to day what would people be using this for? Is it more relevant for something like comparing synth waveforms?

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:46 am

morelia wrote:I've seen examples of where this sort of analyser is useful. But in general what would you use it for? As in day to day what would people be using this for? Is it more relevant for something like comparing synth waveforms?

I think its main intent is for comparing quality of VST plugins. To easily see what they do to the audio, check harmonics, noise, curves, general behaviour. Just like Christian Budde's VST Analyser. That's very useful if you want to check what a plugin does before you buy it. It's also great for finding bugs.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 am

I just did screen shots of all the tests across all the SSL Bus Compressor emulations I have... except Waves. Anyone know how to get Wave plugins to work. I am on a mac with AU. Seems like the Waves version should be part of the comparisons.

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:08 am

DuX wrote:
morelia wrote:I've seen examples of where this sort of analyser is useful. But in general what would you use it for? As in day to day what would people be using this for? Is it more relevant for something like comparing synth waveforms?
I think its main intent is for comparing quality of VST plugins. To easily see what they do to the audio, check harmonics, noise, curves, general behaviour. Just like Christian Budde's VST Analyser. That's very useful if you want to check what a plugin does before you buy it. It's also great for finding bugs.

Is that really a way of comparing the quality of different plugins? Obviously you can see what it does to the audio but when is that important? When checking if a plugin is an exact emu of a hardware emu or whether a waveform is exactly what expected? To me it seems this only has value on very rare occasion, purely for interest sake and in the development of plugins. Happy to be told how I'm missing the point though.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:32 am

morelia wrote:
DuX wrote:
morelia wrote:I've seen examples of where this sort of analyser is useful. But in general what would you use it for? As in day to day what would people be using this for? Is it more relevant for something like comparing synth waveforms?
I think its main intent is for comparing quality of VST plugins. To easily see what they do to the audio, check harmonics, noise, curves, general behaviour. Just like Christian Budde's VST Analyser. That's very useful if you want to check what a plugin does before you buy it. It's also great for finding bugs.
Is that really a way of comparing the quality of different plugins? Obviously you can see what it does to the audio but when is that important? When checking if a plugin is an exact emu of a hardware emu or whether a waveform is exactly what expected? To me it seems this only has value on very rare occasion, purely for interest sake and in the development of plugins. Happy to be told how I'm missing the point though.

it is important when, for example, a developer claims the plugin is a "harmonic exciter" or "emulates vintage hardware" when it actuality all it does is add an EQ curve. it is also important to determine whether the plugin models any saturation or has an inherent noise floor. there are many situations where you would need to test a plugin.

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