What are your favorite “glue” plug-in’s?
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Schepps Parallel Particles is really interesting and one I've been getting into lately. Don't let the gimmicky GUI fool you.
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- Banned
- 480 posts since 28 Apr, 2017
I'd be very interested in hearing more about how you're using it MB.MogwaiBoy wrote:Schepps Parallel Particles is really interesting and one I've been getting into lately. Don't let the gimmicky GUI fool you.
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Basically I see it as an alternative to EQ (and partly compression too) - or an unorthodox EQ - it can achieve the same goals you might have but without a chain of plugins to get there. Both the Air and Sub controls produce harmonics above and below, which itself gives an effect of extended frequency range at the extreme ends... great for making the whole mix sound bigger and deeper. The sub doesn't seem to do funky pitchshifty artifacts like other "sub octave harmonic enhancement".. I have MaxxBass and LoAir and they're different sounding, they're more for instruments not the mix bus.jbarish wrote:I'd be very interested in hearing more about how you're using it MB.MogwaiBoy wrote:Schepps Parallel Particles is really interesting and one I've been getting into lately. Don't let the gimmicky GUI fool you.
As always, use low amounts and volume match the output so you know it's a true improvement and not a loudness trick. It's surprised me how natural it sounds how it dynamically melds into what's already there without being too obvious or overcooked. It's fairly unique and would probably take half a dozen plugins chained together to replicate. I think it was under $29 too.
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- KVRAF
- 2396 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
This. I don't want anything coloring the whole at the master out, though.simon.a.billington wrote: its all the little things you do in common that what gels a mix together. From processing sounds together on the mixbuss, or a submix, to choosing to process all the guitars with the same eq as an example. The more you have in common across your tracks, the more it contributes to mix cohesion.
There is a limit to this though, too many of the same processors makes things too muddy and dull and nothing ends up standing out. So it’s about finding that balance that works.
I like a balance which tends to mean enough things which don't require all this processing!
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Hermetech Mastering Hermetech Mastering https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7418
- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
Usually prefer hardware for so called "glue", but for software the MJUC comp is the only thing that comes anywhere close, that I have tried.
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- KVRAF
- 2396 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Picked this up - you’re absolutely right it’s really good.MogwaiBoy wrote:Schepps Parallel Particles is really interesting and one I've been getting into lately. Don't let the gimmicky GUI fool you.
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Colonel Flashback Colonel Flashback https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=57766
- KVRian
- 864 posts since 12 Feb, 2005 from Green Man Inn
i do that too sometimes, try Cytomics The Scream for thatThe Chase wrote:I like to duplicate the mix bus, and on a parallel channel, overdrive it an unhealthy amount, then subtly mix it in at low levels alongside your original master. I've found nothing else that provides a better glue. Pre and post EQ are necessary.
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
Despite what I’ve said earlier, I’ve got to say I do like the harmonics of the Alpha and the Millenia TCL on busses and the master, as with NLS Buss, and Cobalt Saphira.
If the mix is too sterile I don’t mind a bit of noise or even hum. It helps generate intermodulation which lends itself to mix cohesion.
If the mix is too sterile I don’t mind a bit of noise or even hum. It helps generate intermodulation which lends itself to mix cohesion.
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- KVRAF
- 3089 posts since 4 May, 2012
I'll have to check that out. It's a shame that Klanghelm doesn't do demos but the prices are very low and I've been meaning to pick up the VU meter for a while now.Hermetech Mastering wrote:Usually prefer hardware for so called "glue", but for software the MJUC comp is the only thing that comes anywhere close, that I have tried.
I'm quite fond of HG-2 when it comes to tube emulations. I like to use it as a sub-mix, in parallel with my main mix.
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- KVRAF
- 2586 posts since 15 Jun, 2006
What is HG-2?Unaspected wrote:I'll have to check that out. It's a shame that Klanghelm doesn't do demos but the prices are very low and I've been meaning to pick up the VU meter for a while now.Hermetech Mastering wrote:Usually prefer hardware for so called "glue", but for software the MJUC comp is the only thing that comes anywhere close, that I have tried.
I'm quite fond of HG-2 when it comes to tube emulations. I like to use it as a sub-mix, in parallel with my main mix.
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
Yeah it’s based on a real world device. Kind of like a Culture Vulture thing or a Vertigo VSM-2 if you know those devices.bill45 wrote:What is HG-2?Unaspected wrote:I'll have to check that out. It's a shame that Klanghelm doesn't do demos but the prices are very low and I've been meaning to pick up the VU meter for a while now.Hermetech Mastering wrote:Usually prefer hardware for so called "glue", but for software the MJUC comp is the only thing that comes anywhere close, that I have tried.
I'm quite fond of HG-2 when it comes to tube emulations. I like to use it as a sub-mix, in parallel with my main mix.
They use things like triodes and pentodes to generate harmonic distortion which you can blend in. The HG-2 is quite stunning, actually.
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- KVRian
- 705 posts since 23 Jun, 2004
Do you then later ‘master’ with something like Ozone, etc? And if so, do you find it becomes too much processing? My concern is that if I use too much on the mix buss that is a pseudo-mastering gooderizer, then later process with something else (like Ozone or whatever) that it would have maybe been better to just do ozone?MogwaiBoy wrote:Basically I see it as an alternative to EQ (and partly compression too) - or an unorthodox EQ - it can achieve the same goals you might have but without a chain of plugins to get there. Both the Air and Sub controls produce harmonics above and below, which itself gives an effect of extended frequency range at the extreme ends... great for making the whole mix sound bigger and deeper. The sub doesn't seem to do funky pitchshifty artifacts like other "sub octave harmonic enhancement".. I have MaxxBass and LoAir and they're different sounding, they're more for instruments not the mix bus.jbarish wrote:I'd be very interested in hearing more about how you're using it MB.MogwaiBoy wrote:Schepps Parallel Particles is really interesting and one I've been getting into lately. Don't let the gimmicky GUI fool you.
As always, use low amounts and volume match the output so you know it's a true improvement and not a loudness trick. It's surprised me how natural it sounds how it dynamically melds into what's already there without being too obvious or overcooked. It's fairly unique and would probably take half a dozen plugins chained together to replicate. I think it was under $29 too.
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- KVRAF
- 3089 posts since 4 May, 2012
That's the one. There's a great thread about it over on Gearslutz: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product ... lugin.htmlsimon.a.billington wrote:Yeah it’s based on a real world device. Kind of like a Culture Vulture thing or a Vertigo VSM-2 if you know those devices.bill45 wrote:What is HG-2?Unaspected wrote:I'll have to check that out. It's a shame that Klanghelm doesn't do demos but the prices are very low and I've been meaning to pick up the VU meter for a while now.Hermetech Mastering wrote:Usually prefer hardware for so called "glue", but for software the MJUC comp is the only thing that comes anywhere close, that I have tried.
I'm quite fond of HG-2 when it comes to tube emulations. I like to use it as a sub-mix, in parallel with my main mix.
They use things like triodes and pentodes to generate harmonic distortion which you can blend in. The HG-2 is quite stunning, actually.
There are so many things you could use it for but it will certainly do glue if you want it to.