Hey guys,
I'm an EDM producer and was wondering if any of you knew how professionals master their track so loud. I have an attached picture comparing two tracks (mine and a pros).
The first on is mine (I mix at a low volume), the second one is a real commercial track.
Are there any good videos online explaining how to do this?
Thank you!
Robin
How do I master my tracks as loud as commercial EDM tracks?
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- KVRer
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- 16 posts since 28 Oct, 2013 from The Netherlands
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- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Dynamic range looks roughly the same, only yours has less gain. Try a limiter to chop off some of the errant peaks, if that doesn't work, go back to your mix and make it cleaner but cutting more frequencies.
But to look at the bigger picture, the loudness war has to bottom out somewhere, presumably before the entire song becomes a modulated squarewave. Yes, try for a loud mix if you're doing dance but ultimately it's the content that engages the listener on any meaningful level. At least, that's what I keep telling myself
But to look at the bigger picture, the loudness war has to bottom out somewhere, presumably before the entire song becomes a modulated squarewave. Yes, try for a loud mix if you're doing dance but ultimately it's the content that engages the listener on any meaningful level. At least, that's what I keep telling myself
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- KVRian
- 1265 posts since 3 Jul, 2009
As you can see Martin Garrix song is badly and very lightly mastered - you can see it still has blue color in the background. It should be whole white no matter how deep you zoom in the waveform..
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- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
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- KVRer
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- 16 posts since 28 Oct, 2013 from The Netherlands
Haha love the answer and the video. I understand some of you might not like this type of audio mastering, but my question wasn't asking if you could criticize it.sonicpowa wrote:As you can see Martin Garrix song is badly and very lightly mastered - you can see it still has blue color in the background. It should be whole white no matter how deep you zoom in the waveform..
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- KVRer
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- 16 posts since 28 Oct, 2013 from The Netherlands
It's not even Martin Garrix's track... It a remix by Oliver Heldenssonicpowa wrote:But I like this type of mastering and Garrix song is so not-loud.. It loses its potential from bad mastering. LOUDER!!
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- KVRian
- 955 posts since 18 Apr, 2006
I thought this was a pretty good answer. try this...Sendy wrote:Dynamic range looks roughly the same, only yours has less gain. Try a limiter to chop off some of the errant peaks, if that doesn't work, go back to your mix and make it cleaner but cutting more frequencies.
heck. what happens if you normalize the track?
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- KVRian
- 1265 posts since 3 Jul, 2009
Still only loud-ish, not LOUD!Robin Strand wrote:It's not even Martin Garrix's track... It a remix by Oliver Heldens
Well, seriously speaking loud mastering shouldn´t be that hard if you have good balanced song to start with and a good limiter/clipper.
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- KVRAF
- 10533 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
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- KVRian
- 1379 posts since 27 Nov, 2008 from uk
In my experience it is the mix that is loud and not the master.
Mix your track loud from the start and it will be easier to achieve a competitive master.
Pay attention to your mids and make sure your kick is peaking the mix.
Mix your track loud from the start and it will be easier to achieve a competitive master.
Pay attention to your mids and make sure your kick is peaking the mix.
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- KVRian
- 1379 posts since 27 Nov, 2008 from uk
osiris wrote:2 words
O-Zone.....
Oh yeah, Ozone is the bollox too. The 3rd setting on the limiter is SO Punchy.
I love it!
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By f8888ing EQing them first 
And if want your waveform to look the same add as much white noise as posible
And if want your waveform to look the same add as much white noise as posible
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- KVRer
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- 16 posts since 28 Oct, 2013 from The Netherlands
Which setting/preset are you talking about?faun2500 wrote:osiris wrote:2 words
O-Zone.....
Oh yeah, Ozone is the bollox too. The 3rd setting on the limiter is SO Punchy.
I love it!
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- KVRer
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- 16 posts since 28 Oct, 2013 from The Netherlands
Is it not peaking in my track? The Kick is already really loud, what should I do? Increase the gain of the kick even more?faun2500 wrote:In my experience it is the mix that is loud and not the master.
Mix your track loud from the start and it will be easier to achieve a competitive master.
Pay attention to your mids and make sure your kick is peaking the mix.
