Is there rules in music?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 50 posts since 7 Jul, 2014
I saw lots of youtube producers saying that this is the right way to master, that is the right way to master blablabla.
My question is there is no RULES in music, isn't it? everyone has there own techniques to master and even mixing.
like lots of people saying that clipping is super duper bad, but one of the world's famous producer (Armin Van Burren) said some of his track clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5C3tCu ... LABJ9uIZww
your opinion?
My question is there is no RULES in music, isn't it? everyone has there own techniques to master and even mixing.
like lots of people saying that clipping is super duper bad, but one of the world's famous producer (Armin Van Burren) said some of his track clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5C3tCu ... LABJ9uIZww
your opinion?
- KVRAF
- 8406 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
The difference is that he knows exactly why he is clipping the channels.Any Good Username? wrote:like lots of people saying that clipping is super duper bad, but one of the world's famous producer (Armin Van Burren) said some of his track clips.
Sometime it's a useful way to add "colour" to a sound, but if you just slam every channel and don't care about the red zone you'll develop bad habits ... and your music will probably sound terrible.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 14 May, 2008 from Tralfamadore
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
No rules per se, just a bunch of expectations (which you could characterize as rules, in a way), that's what makes it interesting.
When it comes to eschewing expectations, an understanding of the expectation, why it's expected, etc, is essential. In this case, clipping is a good example. If you understand what clipping is, what it does to the sound both as a waveform and as an actual sound (i.e. how it'll affect the listener), you can choose to use it to your favour.
When it comes to eschewing expectations, an understanding of the expectation, why it's expected, etc, is essential. In this case, clipping is a good example. If you understand what clipping is, what it does to the sound both as a waveform and as an actual sound (i.e. how it'll affect the listener), you can choose to use it to your favour.
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- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
My God if you master they way everyone does nowadays you are just ruining your hard mixing work.
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- KVRist
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- 50 posts since 7 Jul, 2014
what do you mean?ATS wrote:My God if you master they way everyone does nowadays you are just ruining your hard mixing work.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Regardless, there are rules in the English language.
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
What about, "Rent must be paid every month regardless whether people like your original compositions"?
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
You read my mind and you stole my post.ghettosynth wrote:Regardless, there are rules in the English language.
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- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
Any Good Username? wrote:what do you mean?ATS wrote:My God if you master they way everyone does nowadays you are just ruining your hard mixing work.
people destroy their work with a limiter nowadays (loudness wars). All that hard work down the tubes in seconds.
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
Yes they do. I'll admit that there are a handful of songs that acually seem to benefit from this type of squashing, but most of the time it's just plain stupid and the "in" thing to do.ATS wrote:Any Good Username? wrote:what do you mean?ATS wrote:My God if you master they way everyone does nowadays you are just ruining your hard mixing work.
people destroy their work with a limiter nowadays (loudness wars). All that hard work down the tubes in seconds.
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
Yep, exactly.ZenPunkHippy wrote:The difference is that he knows exactly why he is clipping the channels.Any Good Username? wrote:like lots of people saying that clipping is super duper bad, but one of the world's famous producer (Armin Van Burren) said some of his track clips.
Sometime it's a useful way to add "colour" to a sound, but if you just slam every channel and don't care about the red zone you'll develop bad habits ... and your music will probably sound terrible.
Peace,
Andy.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
And yet music theory is better at explaining why something sounds the way it does after the fact of creation. I would suggest that rather than rules, there are different phenomena in the way our brains respond to different combinations and sequences of frequencies. Some phenomena are interpreted as pleasing, others not so much. Both can be utilized to create music, while also keeping in mind the cultural expectations of a given style or genre. Rules is too rigid a way of looking at it, IMHO.V0RT3X wrote:Sure there are rules. Music theory has a ton.
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