SoHa Sound Design

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:14 am

Hey Tucker!

Any news from the Soha front?

tconrardy · Post by **tconrardy** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:26 am

yeah...omce in a while I bring up Sonata..and what a fine synth!

tuckermc · Post by **tuckermc** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:03 am

hey guys,

sorry it took me so long to get back; been on vacation this past week.

we've been working on a bunch of ideas, mostly related to physical modelling. our modelling techniques have been pretty good, but tend to take up *tons* of cpu -- way more than is practical. i have however figured out a few very practical and interesting solutions. there's also something entirely new on the board... a month or so should determine its usefulness. basically, we have a lot of pieces ready to go, need a few more, and can then start to pull them together into one plugin. i'll post here when i have something for you.

btw, tim: been using your crystal preset for sonata in a new track of mine. fits perfectly. will post the mp3 when done.

thanks for checkin' in,

- tucker

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:42 am

Sounds sweet! Can't wait.

Thanks for the update Tucker!

PEace,

Frank

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:54 am

----So does that mean Sonata will be put to rest, or updated to version 2.0 soon ?

Jeff

tuckermc · Post by **tuckermc** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:51 pm

i haven't found an acceptable way to *update* sonata significantly (and have been notified of 0 bugs), but i am thinking about a "light" version (sonatina). the cpu hit is by far the biggest detractor i've noticed, and i really can't make it any more efficient without changing the sound. however, by changing the way the insides work (or maybe rebuilding entirely from scratch), preformance can be improved. since this will change the sound, it will be a new version, not an upgrade (but will still ship with sonata, including to current customers). once cpu is down a bit, there might be some room for further options.

so, here's the order in which i plan to work on things right now:
SoHa Fugue (experimental stage)
SoHa Sonatina (reprogramming stage)
physical modelling experiments (experimental stage; need a few more successful pieces in order to make prototype synth)

- tucker

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:06 pm

----Yeah, cpu usage is one demon you always have to fight it seems, even these days. You could maybe add features that can be turned off and on though, so they only use cpu cycles when active. Anyways, looking forward to seeing/hearing the new stuff later in the year.

Jeff

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:16 pm

liars&ashes wrote:----Yeah, cpu usage is one demon you always have to fight it seems, even these days. You could maybe add features that can be turned off and on though, so they only use cpu cycles when active. Anyways, looking forward to seeing/hearing the new stuff later in the year.

Jeff

Don't worry about it....in 2 years processors will be running at 5 or 6.0 ghz.....in 5 years it'll be 12...then we'll all be able to run whatever we want.

tuckermc · Post by **tuckermc** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:18 am

processors will be running at 5 or 6.0 ghz

Unfortunately, that's probably not entirely true. Theoretically, processors should not get faster than about 4gHz (yes, we're right there - notice a slow-down recently?). Multi-processor systems are taking over now, but they need support that can route a single program (say, a host) through both processors in some intelligent way. So yes, things will get faster, but the so-powerful-we-dont-have-to-worry-about-it processor will probably not exist for a very long time (or ever).

The real solution is for developers to figure out ways to accomplish the tasks they want to with extremely intelligent solutions so we can do the same amount of audio stuff with much less processing. That takes time. Maybe a lot of time. And sometimes there's not a faster way and we have to do something else.

So, we're still working. I just received a large chunk of free time (this is not a normal thing for me), so Fugue is under way. Initial experiments look positive.

- Tucker

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:44 am

----What is "Fugue" going to be, ie - synth or effect ?

Jeff

tuckermc · Post by **tuckermc** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:17 pm

"Fugue" is an idea for an effect. Like a fugue in composition, Fugue will take a small amount of material, rework it a bunch of different ways and combine it with itself to produce something more complex and interesting than the original bit. I stress that right now it is at a mere 10% stage, but so far is encouraging. I'm currently working on CPU saving strategies for this one.

- Tucker

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:09 pm

tuckermc wrote:"Fugue" is an idea for an effect. Like a fugue in composition, Fugue will take a small amount of material, rework it a bunch of different ways and combine it with itself to produce something more complex and interesting than the original bit. I stress that right now it is at a mere 10% stage, but so far is encouraging. I'm currently working on CPU saving strategies for this one.

- Tucker

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:46 pm

----Fugue sounds very cool, I look forward to checking it out when it's done

Jeff

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:18 am

----So what's the word on Fugue and Sonata these days ?

Jeff

tuckermc · Post by **tuckermc** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:09 am

They're on hold. I'm working some 60-70 hours a week right now and simply don't have the time for serious research and development. I'd love to get back to Fugue, but I don't believe this will happen within the next 6 weeks.

Thanks for staying tuned, guys. I'll post when I can again do some real work.

- Tucker

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