KVR Audio

xybre · Post by **xybre** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:57 am

I hate digging through dozens of shitty Reaper themes to find ones that don't suck.

I hate the poorly designed customization interfaces and tons of menu diving.

I really want to like Reaper, it makes so much sense.. but.. it just kinda ends up feeling like Linux. Where its really powerful, but just too much of a pain in the ass for me to use for everyday work. (but all my servers run Linux, and so do some of the development workstations I use)

I try Reaper again every 6 months or so (I'm about due) but it just doesn't feel "right". (Which just drives me nuts because I'd love to replace XT)

randyandyvandaman · Post by **randyandyvandaman** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:07 am

I wouldnt say that the interface is ugly but the 400 page manual certainly scared me off.

Cheers

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:09 am

Try Sonar X1's wonderful manual!!

Sheesh!!

You think 400 pages seems a lot..

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:13 am

randyandyvandaman wrote:I wouldnt say that the interface is ugly but the 400 page manual certainly scared me off.

Cheers

The manual actually doesn't even cover much tbh.

But then, doesn't every DAW have a 400+ pages manual?

ntom · Post by **ntom** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:19 am

chk071 wrote:
randyandyvandaman wrote:I wouldnt say that the interface is ugly but the 400 page manual certainly scared me off.

Cheers
The manual actually doesn't even cover much tbh. But then, doesn't every DAW have a 400+ pages manual?

Actually I don't think my DAW has a manual at all...

EDIT:
scratch that, it does. Just got a new computer haven't gotten adobe reader yet though so I can't tell you how many pages. I will get back to you on that.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:22 am

trimph1 wrote:Try Sonar X1's wonderful manual!!

Sheesh!!

You think 400 pages seems a lot..

Fer real yo! 1000+ pages

randyandyvandaman · Post by **randyandyvandaman** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:24 am

The manual actually doesn't even cover much tbh.

Yeh thats one of the reasons I will pass on Reaper as a serious DAW.

Cheers

ntom · Post by **ntom** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:24 am

My DAW's manual is only 115 pages

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:33 am

randyandyvandaman wrote:
The manual actually doesn't even cover much tbh.
Yeh thats one of the reasons I will pass on Reaper as a serious DAW.

Cheers

Sonar's doesn't even cover much either...at over 1,400 pages!! It has stuff missing in the index, there are things about the control bar that do not show up in that manual...need I go on???

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:50 am

chk071 wrote:
nineofkings wrote: Are the complaints against the GUI literally the GUI or the layout?
Actually i think Reaper made a major step forward with v4 in terms of GUI-cuteness. Also the layout seems quite logic and clear to me. If there weren't those right click dialogs containing literally hundreds of items though... that's actually one of the things which really put me off every time i use Reaper. I know you can customize it the way you want it to be but seriously... for a beginner that's not really the desired way though as a beginner most probably won't know what exactly he needs and what he does not need in such a menu.

The way Reaper is going we always going to be a beginner...

DILF · Post by **DILF** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:51 am

captain caveman wrote:... this is why you will end up using it.

He said from atop his pink elephant only seconds before waking up

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:54 am

xybre wrote:I try Reaper again every 6 months or so (I'm about due) but it just doesn't feel "right". (Which just drives me nuts because I'd love to replace XT)

XT has an amazing straight to the point workflow and yes, you need a bug spray

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:55 am

randyandyvandaman wrote:I wouldnt say that the interface is ugly but the 400 page manual certainly scared me off.

Cheers

And by the time I finish those 400 pages V5 is out. Another 500 pages....

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:08 am

liquidsound wrote:
xybre wrote:I try Reaper again every 6 months or so (I'm about due) but it just doesn't feel "right". (Which just drives me nuts because I'd love to replace XT)
XT has an amazing straight to the point workflow and yes, you need a bug spray

Don't remind me. I have no idea why from a billion years ago it has not advanced more. Money? I dunno.........sad really because again, I have it and would have gladly supported it. But it just got to be goneware.

lockheart · Post by **lockheart** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:36 am

"Reaper has an ugly GUI"