i wish fl studio was a true multitrack daw.

[hibidy]

I appreciate you mentioning it

[lotus2035]

i recommend flashblock. works great.

Flashblock is a toy ,
Flashwipe is so much better, all the pros use it.

[hibidy]

awesome!

[mandolarian]

i recommend flashblock. works great.

Flashblock is a toy ,
Flashwipe is so much better, all the pros use it.

Sure, that maybe the case, but only the overpaid pros can afford to purchase the FlashDongle required to run Flashwipe in a professional environment. Like those found in a KVRian's bedroom.

[hibidy]

[mandolarian]

Ouch! I thought air guitar was painful.

Or....

Oh, look, the water's so clear I can see the bottom of the pool.

Or

Ha-ha. That free internet Bungee Jumping course saved so much time and money, but what was that rubber band thingie about?

This isn't real. I'm trapped in a photoshop mashup on the internet. This isn't real, I'm...

So many captions, so few splashy witticisms...

[trimph1]

i recommend flashblock. works great.

Flashblock is a toy ,
Flashwipe is so much better, all the pros use it.

FlashNuke is far better!!!

[lotus2035]

i recommend flashblock. works great.

Flashblock is a toy ,
Flashwipe is so much better, all the pros use it.

FlashNuke is far better!!!

Better? Yes. But the best? No.
That accolade is reserved for 'FlashBlackhole', which sucks up all flash elements within 100 million light years.
Not yet tested in the milky way but initial reports of the first major trial in the Andromeda galaxy have reported no flash elements remain across 300 billion star systems. Still a shit load of porn though.

[bmanic]

FL Piano roll is the best because...

Left click - Draw a note
Right click - Delete a note
CTRL+Drag - Select stuff
SHIFT+Drag - Duplicate your crap
ALT+Scroll - Velocity adjust
ALT+ ◄ or ► - Fine positioning (move 1 thick)
SHIFT+ ▲ or ▼ - Semitone transpose
CTRL+ ▲ or ▼ - Octave transpose
And there's quantize, and flam, and strum, and chop...

FL Piano roll = less clicks!!! ☺

I think I can do all that in Reaper.

Good luck with that. I've tried configuring Reaper to work like FL Studio several times.. ever since version 2.xx of Reaper.

Nope. Isn't happening. Not even close.

In fact, I absolutely HATE composing stuff in Reaper due to the absolutely ABYSMAL pianoroll. It is HORRIBLE.

There are many more reasons why it's horrible than just being able to assign key commands. The way the mouse "snaps" to a function, for instance adjusting note length versus note height (middle of note versus end of note), especially short tiny notes, is horrible and very un-intuitive. It's the exact opposite of "it just works!". It's literally "it just doesn't work!". Constant fighting of trying to get the mouse cursor in the correct position to do the correct thing.

Then finally the graphics of the piano roll are just not even remotely as clear as in FL Studio and I've tried MANY of the highest quality skins/templates for Reaper. I don't know why or what makes the FL piano roll so superior but it just is.

Believe me, the day Reaper's piano roll performs like the FL Studio one, that's the day I completely ditch FL Studio.

Cheers!
bManic

[bmanic]

The only area it lacks some actual ability is in audio editing, true, but that's never really affected me that much.

.. and that's the key. It never affected YOU that much but as I work with a ton of mixed content, a lot of audio tracks (over 30+ vocal takes for the chorus alone is very common in today's pop productions) you just can't do that kind of stuff in FL Studio without loosing a ton of time.

3 very simple things would remedy this to a large extent.

1) Being able to zoom close enough, down to sample level would be preferable so that you can see zero-crossings

2) Having a basic but usable cross-fade option (both automatic and user selectable)

3) Basic fade-in and fade-out of audio clips


These are features that appeared in the very first versions of Logic, Cubase, Cakewalk, Pro Tools and virtually any other DAW that dares call it self that. Granted, a lot of the early versions were "offline" processing of the fades and cross fades so you CAN basically do this within FL Studio by loading up the audio into an instance of Edison and then dragging it back on track but try doing that for 30+ audio files just to polish the chorus alone. Nope. Ain't happening unless the client has tons of money and is a moron.

So in THIS kind of scenario, ttoz is absolutely right. FL Studio is merely a toy.

HOWEVER, in the music PRODUCTION/COMPOSITION part of music where you do NOT record tons of audio tracks, there FL Studio is absolutely killer and most definitely not a toy. In this scenario it eats most DAWs for breakfast, at least in my opinion.

It all comes down to what you are using the thing for. The sad part is that FL Studio could easily be so much more with so little added BASIC functionality. And you can't even really argue against the this.. the functionality is very very basic. Heck, even my crappy 20$ fostex 8 track digital recorder thing has basic fade-in, fade-out and cross-fades!!

Cheers!
bManic

[Unaspected]

In my experience, the more experienced people are the more respect they show for all music making tools. All can now be used to make music in any genre, and that is a win is it not?

Absolutely.

[hibidy]

Everyone whining about FL should just stay away from it and use something else. Then the people who enjoy it won't have to listen to all the constant complaining. If you want FL to work like another DAW, go use another DAW. No offense.

cool first post.

Okay here we go. I got my old username working again. Been here since 2004. You have a LOT of posts. Very impressive.

tbh, I'm not really sure why I joined in this thread. Boredom maybe? Yeah, your point is taken, but things are not that black and white. The thread title is actually spot-on for a topic. If someone wishes for an improvement in the product, is there anything wrong with that? I think not. But your post pretty much said "bugger off" and the "no offense" can actually be quite offensive.

Anyways, like I said. I don't think FL is a toy, I do think your point is somewhat valid (but could have been worded better), I do think that people should be allowed to voice problems/concerns.

[aciddose]

come on, to be honest all of this stuff is a toy. cubase? toy. diva? goofy, pointless little toy.

that's what music is all about.

now e-jay however, that's a whole new class of toy. uber-toy.

[audiosabre]

2) Having a basic but usable cross-fade option

For the second time in this thread...


There are different shapes and lengths to what's shown in the image.

Sure it isn't as intuitive as having crossfade handles, but it's definitely 'usable'...

[aciddose]

anybody who complains about fl missing a feature like that is obviously blind.

although i wouldn't blame them since they're caught in the fl-ui fog.

that fog is made of poor translations and organization that was obviously conducted in some kind of drug induced trance.

being a programmer myself however i know the truth. it's feature creep where a ui redesign effort was never applied afterward. it's a lack of attention to detail. let's just throw every option under the sun on the front panel. let's leave related options that were added at different times in completely different sections, neither of which has the name you would associate with these things.

it's a major issue because even if a ui redesign did happen, then you'd have people complaining that you've changed things. sure, you might want to put all of the envelope options under "envelopes" including cross fades and those sorts of things. now nobody can find "cross fade" anymore because they thought it was under "de-clicking".