KVR Audio

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:46 am

dredd i knight wrote:
hibidy wrote:Man, push is pretty deep. Between the viddys, playing and exploring stuff like this...I'll be lost (today was unfortunately a slight stomach flu, so not very musical)
Get well soon...
I know what you mean, it's a pretty deep pool.... i feel a little overwhelmed with all the info available, and am taking my time to get used to used to stuff as i use it, rather than try to absorb everything it can do at once...

thanks! I just need a good nights sleep (and my cat is likely not to give it to me, totally wild tonight!

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hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:50 am

Oh yeah, @maschine: Yeah, I actually never really got really comfy with it. My love of push so far is that it CLEARLY integrates with live and I use live about 70% of the time. So unless I run into a serious issue (which I haven't so far and have played with it A LOT) it will be cool. I don't need and don't expect "perfection" and am tempered a bit, but it's amazing how well you can get on with stuff with it.

One issue I can't figure out is why trilian (or same patches in omnisphere) are always vibrato on

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:54 am

werp wrote:I can see this thread costing me 600 bucks the way it's going

Keep tuned. If you have live, it's amazing how well it integrates. I watched a SHITLOAD of viddys on it, so kinda had an idea how to use it straight away. Again, my biggest "positive" comment......is it supposed to be this easy to use?

werp · Post by **werp** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:30 am

hibidy wrote:
werp wrote:I can see this thread costing me 600 bucks the way it's going

Keep tuned. If you have live, it's amazing how well it integrates. I watched a SHITLOAD of viddys on it, so kinda had an idea how to use it straight away. Again, my biggest "positive" comment......is it supposed to be this easy to use?

I have ableton suite..and a whole bunch of others. X3 producer, FL signature, Studio 1/2 etc.
Plus Maschine.
Pretty damned tough figuring any of 'em out with a permanent size 12 headache in a size 9 head.
I should spend more time on Groove3

werp · Post by **werp** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:42 pm

Almost midnight, spent the evening researching controllers. Now I'm leaning towards a Livid Instruments Code V2 (rotary encoders) and Base (pads/buttons/faders) combination. Open source and good to go with any software that utilises 'midi learn'.

ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:12 pm

hibidy wrote: One issue I can't figure out is why trilian (or same patches in omnisphere) are always vibrato on

Im gonna go with aftertouch as the answer to that. The aftertouch in push is ALWAYS on, it has no pressure/time wait period so from the moment you hit a pad it starts sending some sort of aftertouch. I dont have the devices on me but there are some m4l devices out there that block AT or limit it until it hits a certain threshold and then passes it through (as it should be)

At least the pxt scripts have an AT threshold setting, so if your using pxt-general in another daw for playing you wont encounter this. I assume pxt-live also has a setting for this. Of course the simplest way is if you hear it bothering you throw one of those m4l devices on the track

ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:16 pm

Also here's a push chord reference while I try to track down the m4l devices

ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:23 pm

So here is a listing of all the m4l's with a push reference:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/index.php?tag=push

Some useful ones:
Putility - Adds a modwheel knob and a knob to scale aftertouch. So now you can use one of the knobs as a modwheel and filter out the aftertouch
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1854/putility

Afertouch mapper - so you can map any knob to AT
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... uch-device

Keyboard controller - Another one that adds missing stuff, modwheel, at control, but also patch/bank selection, foot, velocity
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... rd-control

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:25 pm

werp wrote:Almost midnight, spent the evening researching controllers. Now I'm leaning towards a Livid Instruments Code V2 (rotary encoders) and Base (pads/buttons/faders) combination. Open source and good to go with any software that utilises 'midi learn'.

Well since they are generic midi controllers they will offer the same midi learn functionality that Push would offer in other hosts.

Check this also: http://www.nativekontrol.com/PXT-General.html it helps making Push more usefull with third party soft.

KrisM · Post by **KrisM** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:35 pm

I really need to get PXT-General since I have Studio One that I also like using

werp wrote:I can see this thread costing me 600 bucks the way it's going

if you're in the US, zZounds will let you pay it off in four payments of $150, and send it to you after the first payment clears (ie when you order it, shipping/tax added to first payment). Then they charge your card 30, 60, and 90 days after that. Any order $250 and above can have this treatment.

Pretty sweet deal if you ask me, and no credit check, interest, or anything if that's a concern. They just split it into four payments and done.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:49 pm

@ezelkow1: Thanks! Will look into now.......

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:22 pm

BRILLIANT!!!!!! Thanks again!

werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:49 am

rod_zero wrote:
werp wrote:Almost midnight, spent the evening researching controllers. Now I'm leaning towards a Livid Instruments Code V2 (rotary encoders) and Base (pads/buttons/faders) combination. Open source and good to go with any software that utilises 'midi learn'.
Well since they are generic midi controllers they will offer the same midi learn functionality that Push would offer in other hosts.

Check this also: http://www.nativekontrol.com/PXT-General.html it helps making Push more usefull with third party soft.

Thanks for the nativekontrol link. Adds it to my shopping list

werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:51 am

KrisM wrote:I really need to get PXT-General since I have Studio One that I also like using

werp wrote:I can see this thread costing me 600 bucks the way it's going

if you're in the US, zZounds will let you pay it off in four payments of $150, and send it to you after the first payment clears (ie when you order it, shipping/tax added to first payment). Then they charge your card 30, 60, and 90 days after that. Any order $250 and above can have this treatment.

Pretty sweet deal if you ask me, and no credit check, interest, or anything if that's a concern. They just split it into four payments and done.

Australia here, my gadget supplier is 1/2 an hour away thank glod.

KrisM · Post by **KrisM** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:28 am

Derp. I'm still getting used to the new layout >.>

Who has push?