Nice dude! Still, it doesn't make any sense to me.camsr wrote:f**k off hibidy, the text is right there
FL studio 12 New Vector Mixer Preview!
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Everyones touchy cuz of the Mixing Comp thread. 
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Oh snap.
What he win!?
A hat, at least?
What he win!?
A hat, at least?
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=171FURqSIQchighkoo wrote:Oh snap.
What he win!?
A hat, at least?
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Literally never gets old.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Frankly, I'll be interested in giving this a shot when it comes out. I dunno though, every year/ish they come out with a new version, every year I load it up, every year it just doesn't click with me.
But I own it, so.......
But I own it, so.......
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- Banned
- 194 posts since 30 Aug, 2008
"In a Holy war how you gonna win?" KRS 1
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 6 Nov, 2012
There are many people who just wanted to hear nothing but ordinary "Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, we are listening all customers voice!" reply. Personally, I'm not expecting such kind of marketing lip service when I use my time to find and read official talk but I understand many hipster boys like hearing/reading those things.LawrenceF wrote:Another common topic here seems to be the fact that "Image-Line is arrogant
There is this unspoken "customer service" boundary rule that most businesses have, a thing where users (or potential users, or crack users, or trolls) can pretty much say just about anything they want about a product, true or not, and usually get a carefully measured and polite PR type reply ... because that's what most businesses do to try to avoid being perceived as being cross with the public.
That the FL guys sometimes don't do that and maybe more often call BS is (imo) a good (and sometimes entertaining) thing.
Having said that, that doesn't mean they're always right about everything.I like my mum too but she's not perfect either.
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- KVRAF
- 6155 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
Conveying "intent" on KVR is really, really hard. Someone always reads something that's not actually there.
I only meant that if a company does that - once - they're often viewed as being arrogant. I'm not saying that every criticism or comment is a bash or a troll or completely made up BS with no factual support, that's obviously clearly not true, only that - some - actually are, and the FL guys appear to be - more inclined to react to those things (where it actually applies in that particular limited context) - in a less typical way, not the PR "the customer is always right" way.
That's all. Context - proper context - is everything.
If you say things like the above, someone always expands it into something else, like I'm actually suggesting that all comments and complaints are trolls or BS, and none are legit.
I only meant that if a company does that - once - they're often viewed as being arrogant. I'm not saying that every criticism or comment is a bash or a troll or completely made up BS with no factual support, that's obviously clearly not true, only that - some - actually are, and the FL guys appear to be - more inclined to react to those things (where it actually applies in that particular limited context) - in a less typical way, not the PR "the customer is always right" way.
That's all. Context - proper context - is everything.
If you say things like the above, someone always expands it into something else, like I'm actually suggesting that all comments and complaints are trolls or BS, and none are legit.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
dp 
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The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
not just KvR, it's how the world is and the internet being text based makes it harder...bottom line, I have been guilty of misreading posts, people have been guilty of misreading my posts...I mean we dont even all speak the same language...I would say better than 80% of the time when such disagreements occur with myself and another poster it gets cleared up quickly (often through a PM) and I would say that less than 1% of those who that happens with (whether it be my err or theirs) I gain a better understanding of that person and we become friends.LawrenceF wrote:Conveying "intent" on KVR is really, really hard. Someone always reads something that's not actually there.
I only meant that if a company does that - once - they're often viewed as being arrogant. I'm not saying that every criticism or comment is a bash or a troll or completely made up BS with no factual support, that's obviously clearly not true, only that - some - actually are, and the FL guys appear to be - more inclined to react to those things (where it actually applies in that particular limited context) - in a less typical way, not the PR "the customer is always right" way.
That's all. Context - proper context - is everything.
If you say things like the above, someone always expands it into something else, like I'm actually suggesting that all comments and complaints are trolls or BS, and none are legit.
The only time it goes bad is when one person cannot admit their errs, we're all human and we all make mistakes...the internet is a minefield though because your words stay forever, some people like to 'catch' other people contradicting themselves while others manipulate quotes to make it appear the other person is contradicting themselves...but again not just on KvR.
So I guess these things are just the nature of the beast and how one deals with it shapes the final outcome for them.
The only reason that might not happen now with my post is because I'm saying "watch, someone will expand my words into something else"...IMHO the answer lies in tolerance and acceptance, YMMV but that's how I turn those things into growth. I may not always be able to do so, but I try...a misunderstanding on the internet is easily dealt with and put in the past.If you say things like the above, someone always expands it into something else
Sorry dude, but I dont think blaming KvR is any better, you said
but also the first thing you said waslike I'm actually suggesting that all comments and complaints are trolls or BS, and none are legit
so you dont want people to throw a blanket over your posts but it's okay for you to throw a blanket over KvR?Conveying "intent" on KVR is really, really hard. Someone always reads something that's not actually there.
Or is this another case of someone else reading something into your post that is not there?
No offense intended, I'm just sayin...it's a two way street
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 6155 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
Kinda. That comparison or analogy you made doesn't hold up for me but... it doesn't matter, it's not that important.Or is this another case of someone else reading something into your post that is not there?
