KVR Audio

bibz1st · Post by **bibz1st** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:42 pm

Pretty sure Mulab is good for what you want, create clips that contain the sequence and the vst together.

crashedthecar · Post by **crashedthecar** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:57 pm

Logic has folders, reason has blocks, traction has edits, reaper has pips. They al have a space for doodles but i get what the op is saying. A pin board to organize ideas with their own time line and tracks and sticky notes.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:01 pm

Bitwig and Live can store clips and plugin together which can be dragged into projects

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:23 pm

samplitudes object based workflow...you can automate objects, you can have vst's in the object, you can freeze an object, you have eq's, volume, pan, crossfade editor, elastic audio, and a lot more, you can loop objects, and with the revolver tracks you can save as many different combinations of objects on one track as you want

eBlue · Post by **eBlue** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:14 am

Wow, I can't believe that this topic made it three pages without someone mentioning SONAR's Matrix View. It does pretty much exactly what the OP is asking for. It supports MIDI and audio clips, which can be routed back through the tracks in the DAW. You build song sections using columns and then record the triggering of the columns in real-time back into the DAW. BAM! Instant full song! You can then go thru the song and add envelopes, FX, drops, builds etc.

I've used it to produce many projects over the last few years.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... atrix+view

-e.B

Jed · Post by **Jed** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:30 pm

If you own Reaper this vst looks promising
http://www.helgoboss.org/projects/playtime/

Cheers
Jed

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:15 am

downSouthside wrote:Wow, I can't believe that this topic made it three pages without someone mentioning SONAR's Matrix View. It does pretty much exactly what the OP is asking for. It supports MIDI and audio clips, which can be routed back through the tracks in the DAW. You build song sections using columns and then record the triggering of the columns in real-time back into the DAW. BAM! Instant full song! You can then go thru the song and add envelopes, FX, drops, builds etc.

I've used it to produce many projects over the last few years.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... atrix+view

-e.B

Like ableton an Bitwig but less features

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:18 am

"unless we can get a VST plug-in" >
Nora can be used too, https://squaredheads.com/programa.php, it's an AL for chords

(so it's a chord chopper with "Session View")

:: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=425600

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:54 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Bitwig and Live can store clips and plugin together which can be dragged into projects

But they have varying differences.

First off, I like memyselfandus, but for the love of god.......there IS NO perfect host!

Second, bitwig is closest from what I can gather. Downfalls:

-you can't seem to re-record over midi clips in the clips area (booo!)
-as mentioned, you CAN drag clips back and fourth

-it's not as tight as live when switching scenes though

-but you can quantize, swing, etc with selecting several clips at once!

Did I mention, there IS NO perfect host?

PALU · Post by **PALU** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:19 am

Jed wrote:If you own Reaper this vst looks promising
http://www.helgoboss.org/projects/playtime/

Wow! Thanks for that - I think it's something I was looking for for a long time

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:37 pm

downSouthside wrote:Wow, I can't believe that this topic made it three pages without someone mentioning SONAR's Matrix View. It does pretty much exactly what the OP is asking for. It supports MIDI and audio clips, which can be routed back through the tracks in the DAW. You build song sections using columns and then record the triggering of the columns in real-time back into the DAW. BAM! Instant full song! You can then go thru the song and add envelopes, FX, drops, builds etc.

I've used it to produce many projects over the last few years.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... atrix+view

-e.B

close.. but you can't record into the clips. you have to record your audio or midi elsewhere and then you can drag it in. a must have feature that is missing. for me.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:45 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
downSouthside wrote:Wow, I can't believe that this topic made it three pages without someone mentioning SONAR's Matrix View. It does pretty much exactly what the OP is asking for. It supports MIDI and audio clips, which can be routed back through the tracks in the DAW. You build song sections using columns and then record the triggering of the columns in real-time back into the DAW. BAM! Instant full song! You can then go thru the song and add envelopes, FX, drops, builds etc.

I've used it to produce many projects over the last few years.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... atrix+view

-e.B
Like ableton an Bitwig but less features

I need to look into this. Havent even tried it yet. Maybe I should read the Sonar manual.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:11 am

I cant live without my NI maschine for fast sketches and ideas..
Drag and drop it to my daw.Did bought it exactly for this purpose... But now i,ve bought bitwig you.ll think its uselees. But NO its still my go to sketch pad thingie.

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:13 pm

codec17 wrote:I cant live without my NI maschine for fast sketches and ideas..
Drag and drop it to my daw.Did bought it exactly for this purpose... But now i,ve bought bitwig you.ll think its uselees. But NO its still my go to sketch pad thingie.

I will google. can't remember. can you record audio into Maschine? the same as midi?

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:14 pm

xbitz wrote:"unless we can get a VST plug-in" >
Nora can be used too, https://squaredheads.com/programa.php, it's an AL for chords (so it's a chord chopper with "Session View")

:: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=425600

this is really cool. couldn't figure out how to drag clips into the daw though.

Every day Daw should have a separate area for getting ideas together unless we can get a VST plug-in