High peaks prevent decent volume level
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Well, all I see in the OP is a waveform that isn't clipped, that you believe for some reason is a problem. There is no problem except in your understanding.
Music will have all kinds of peaks; the fact they are peaks means that by comparison something else isn't a peak, which indicates some dynamic range.
So the whole program having a problem of 'decent level' because of one peak doesn't have any sense to it. The statement in the thread title is a bad premise.
And you've been advised to take this or that measure in order to correct a non-problem. You have more information now than you know what to do with.
Music will have all kinds of peaks; the fact they are peaks means that by comparison something else isn't a peak, which indicates some dynamic range.
So the whole program having a problem of 'decent level' because of one peak doesn't have any sense to it. The statement in the thread title is a bad premise.
And you've been advised to take this or that measure in order to correct a non-problem. You have more information now than you know what to do with.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
why not simply reduce the dynamic range of the instrument that is causing the peaks with a comp/limiter?
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
The OP has now stated they're doing more dynamic music than EDM-type. So I would not advise reducing dynamic range per se, that's my whole point.
Peaks are not a bad thing in themselves. If you want lifeless, flat, dull music, sure, abide by this as a general principle and have no peaks.
Peaks are not a bad thing in themselves. If you want lifeless, flat, dull music, sure, abide by this as a general principle and have no peaks.
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
OTOH if you have something which is always clipping, it needs to be dealt with. The first thing to consider is TURN IT DOWN.
Reaching for a limiter just because you see a peak is a terrible idea. You're probably thinking to mix with your eyes already.
Reaching for a limiter just because you see a peak is a terrible idea. You're probably thinking to mix with your eyes already.
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- KVRAF
- 7400 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
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- KVRian
- 1156 posts since 10 Apr, 2006
Jan raises a good point. Processing shouldn't be about elimination, but rather control.
Sausage waveforms aren't a good thing, but excessive uncontrolled peaks vs rms level aren't, either.
I'd probably target the individual offending instrument track(s), and try some gentle reduction there. Trying to do so on the master bus after the fact tends to be a bit more problematic, imo.
Sausage waveforms aren't a good thing, but excessive uncontrolled peaks vs rms level aren't, either.
I'd probably target the individual offending instrument track(s), and try some gentle reduction there. Trying to do so on the master bus after the fact tends to be a bit more problematic, imo.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
That's precisely what I was sayingkelldammit wrote:Jan raises a good point. Processing shouldn't be about elimination, but rather control.
Sausage waveforms aren't a good thing, but excessive uncontrolled peaks vs rms level aren't, either.
I'd probably target the individual offending instrument track(s), and try some gentle reduction there. Trying to do so on the master bus after the fact tends to be a bit more problematic, imo.
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- KVRian
- 1156 posts since 10 Apr, 2006
...and Hink raises a good point, too!
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