KVR Audio

inkwarp · Post by **inkwarp** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:38 pm

.jon wrote:
bmanic wrote:I would not take back a single minute of any of them. Why? Because it all taught me various lessons and gave new ideas on how to work things.
I'm not sure about that. The only thing I learnt from Reaper was that life's too short to waste on subpar garbage, and tbh that's kinda common knowledge.

Reaper = Garbage?
software i don't get on well with is not necessarily 'garbage'. a little dismissive..
in fact i am hard pressed to call any daws i have used 'garbage'. they may not chime with me but, as is the case with Cakewalk, it just didn't suit what i wanted to do.
calling a DAW garbage that costs peanuts but is very powerful, that's a little off-hand perhaps?

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:52 pm

Soundtracker of course

Oh, actually that s true, but I wish I started with Renoise. But it were different times and possibilities then.

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:43 pm

inkwarp wrote: software i don't get on well with is not necessarily 'garbage'. a little dismissive..
in fact i am hard pressed to call any daws i have used 'garbage'. they may not chime with me but, as is the case with Cakewalk, it just didn't suit what i wanted to do.
calling a DAW garbage that costs peanuts but is very powerful, that's a little off-hand perhaps?

Dismissive? Off-hand? I'm not talking about people, but computer programs. They don't have feelings.

inkwarp · Post by **inkwarp** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:40 pm

what are you talking about.
i am referring to software and 'not people'.
if you make a statement dismissing software as "garbage", justify it.

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:31 pm

I made a statement about life being too short for wasting it on subpar garbage. Does that need justifying?

I'm happy to expand on my opinion on Reaper, the unintuitive, unreliable and unstable overengineered but underdesigned platform for scripting, skinning and software configuration enthusiasts, but frankly I don't think anyone else but hardcore fanboys give a f**k about such opinions, and all the rest have better things to do.

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:02 pm

Really odd to talk about "wasting [life] on garbage" when you introduced it in the first place. Most people would simply not mention it at all.

Guenon · Post by **Guenon** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:25 pm

I have a long history on DAWs, and music software before they were called DAWs

, so I don't know... As in, I started out on early trackers and MIDI only sequencers, but if I was starting out today, I wouldn't necessarily want to start on a tracker, for example. These were the only stuff available at the time, though, so I think this future me still would like the past me to start the way he did, haha. I consider it an educational experience on many music/audio principles, as you worked so hands-on with sound and had to craft and figure out so much manually.

These days I use Reaper and Live, choosing the environment depending on the project. If I started out today, I know I could really count on either one of those, offering me the depth and trustworthiness I appreciate in a software environment, and then be well on my way.

Jax Pok · Post by **Jax Pok** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:29 am

Atari ST
I would be so good right now If I had started before 2010

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:28 am

Pretty satisfied that I started out programming blips and bloops on early personal computers as a child. It's a fun journey. Tried and used many things along the way and still open to anything that improves my workflow.

At some point DAWs will be replaced by interfaces into our brains and we'll imagine sounds and music and >poof< there it is. People without imaginations will have to stick with DAWs, and other people will say "I wish I started on the Mind Audio Workstation!"

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:43 am

The one all the cool kids started out with.

You know. So I could be cool too. Accepted and all approved by everybody else and shit.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:31 am

DubTurbo

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:34 am

inkwarp wrote:what are you talking about.
i am referring to software and 'not people'.
if you make a statement dismissing software as "garbage", justify it.

Trash by iZotope is Garbage.

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:59 am

OK that got a chuckle

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:16 am

I was destined to start with Logic but then they dropped windows support. Took a long time to get my bearings. messed around with Cubase. Love it but does not have ARA and a few workflow issues prevent me making it my main DAW. Now it is Studio One 3.5 or Sonar Platinum or Samplitude. They are all so good and they have ARA. I would now prefer Reaper or FL Studio if they had ARA for Melodyne. Prefer DAW's with a native 32/64 bit bridge.

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:58 am

I started out on Tracktion 1 nfr and I got it free ..... So can't really say that I wished I'd a paid a bunch of money for Cakewalk , Live , Cubase , Logic , or ProTools , those were the days .....

Which DAW do you wish you started on?