DAW development stopped ?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 328 posts since 27 Apr, 2004 from Always here
I haven't done much in the music world over the last few years and so I thought I'd have a look around the KVR for old times sake. It occurred to me that there's not too much new stuff to get excited about with DAWs.
Would it be a reasonable assumption to say that there isn't much more room for innovation - rather like the petrol engine in cars ?
I am not trying to be provocative, I genuinely felt this when having a look around today.
Would it be a reasonable assumption to say that there isn't much more room for innovation - rather like the petrol engine in cars ?
I am not trying to be provocative, I genuinely felt this when having a look around today.
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Depends on expactations, but yeah, Bitwig.
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- KVRian
- 789 posts since 13 Aug, 2012 from it's all about location!
Studio One 4 with ARA2-Melodyne integration will be a next big step. And while you're at it: the new composer help features with Studio One 4 seem great.
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
So what, they all are similar in many ways, car is car, just what runs the engine is different, if you expect some 3D leap motion DAW, yeah, flying car, sit back and wait.luxgud wrote:
You could argue that Bitwig is Ableton Live derivative.
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- KVRAF
- 9077 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
If you look at it from a bussiness standpoint they wouldn't want to add too many new developments, features and innovations every time because they have to spread things out through future releases, to keep users hungry for upgrading so that the money keeps flowing in. The longer they can keep the pace relatively slow, the better, so it seems. As long as they stay competitive with each other of course!
And besides that it must be hard to be really innovative with groundbreaking stuff after all those years of development within the industry.
Maybe ultimately they could add algorithms to make the music for you, but what would be the fun of that
And besides that it must be hard to be really innovative with groundbreaking stuff after all those years of development within the industry.
Maybe ultimately they could add algorithms to make the music for you, but what would be the fun of that
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
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- KVRAF
- 35405 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Well, exactly. As long as they stay competetive. If you have an innovative idea, and someone else comes up first with it by implementing it into their DAW, then it hasn't been much use. Also, the questions is how innovative you really can be. After all, people expect a certain workflow, certain features, and, everything which is too exotic comes with a big risk of being unsuccessful.Nielzie wrote:If you look at it from a bussiness standpoint they wouldn't want to add too many new developments, features and innovations every time because they have to spread things out through future releases, to keep users hungry for upgrading so that the money keeps flowing in. The longer they can keep the pace relatively slow, the better, so it seems. As long as they stay competitive with each other of course!
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- KVRAF
- 5802 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
See also Hollyhock 3
http://www.sensomusic.org/
http://www.sensomusic.org/
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
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- KVRian
- 969 posts since 6 Jul, 2009
Or that it's complex software that has to be tested and then kept compatible with decades worth of other software -- including operating systems -- because people are still afraid to upgrade from Windows XP. Just a thought, rather than the lazy, evil-corporate-monster-theory.Nielzie wrote:If you look at it from a bussiness standpoint they wouldn't want to add too many new developments, features and innovations every time because they have to spread things out through future releases, to keep users hungry for upgrading so that the money keeps flowing in. The longer they can keep the pace relatively slow, the better, so it seems. As long as they stay competitive with each other of course!
And besides that it must be hard to be really innovative with groundbreaking stuff after all those years of development within the industry.
Maybe ultimately they could add algorithms to make the music for you, but what would be the fun of that
- KVRAF
- 9077 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
No no no, I don't mean lazy or evil, it's just a strategy that keeps everybody happy. The developers for continuation of their business and the users for.. well.. everytime some new things to look forward to, continues stability (good point!) and the continuation of support of the developer for the software that they bought.KBSoundSmith wrote:Or that it's complex software that has to be tested and then kept compatible with decades worth of other software -- including operating systems -- because people are still afraid to upgrade from Windows XP. Just a thought, rather than the lazy, evil-corporate-monster-theory.Nielzie wrote:If you look at it from a bussiness standpoint they wouldn't want to add too many new developments, features and innovations every time because they have to spread things out through future releases, to keep users hungry for upgrading so that the money keeps flowing in. The longer they can keep the pace relatively slow, the better, so it seems. As long as they stay competitive with each other of course!
And besides that it must be hard to be really innovative with groundbreaking stuff after all those years of development within the industry.
Maybe ultimately they could add algorithms to make the music for you, but what would be the fun of that
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Maybe because they finally ironed all bugs on that OS and moving on next just introduce more variables, but yeah, let's just stop supporting something we worked years on fixing and move on next thing, flawed logic, but whatever keeps selling new hardware I guess, software devs. aren't the ones pushing themselves into it, but aren't naive either, not all, but plenty.KBSoundSmith wrote:because people are still afraid to upgrade from Windows XP. Just a thought, rather than the lazy, evil-corporate-monster-theory.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? ShawnG
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 328 posts since 27 Apr, 2004 from Always here
See also Hollyhock 3
http://www.sensomusic.org/
Genuinely impressed.
I'll be able to use my 3D Leap Motion device after all !
http://www.sensomusic.org/
Genuinely impressed.
I'll be able to use my 3D Leap Motion device after all !