Drawing in MuLab
- KVRAF
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Next test version features automation parts that can also do MIDI Controllers, Aftertouch and Pitch Bend. That way you'll be able to create pitch bend patterns with all means of the envelope editor. Next test version will be available later today
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 7 Mar, 2013
You get access to test versions if you buy MuLab then?mutools wrote:Next test version
Just went through every listed shortcut; no way to select previous/next track/rack. Things are definitely too mouse-intensive, and shortcuts should not be per-window, so I can 'select next/previous instrument/track/rack' while playing the virtual keyboard!
- KVRAF
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
See http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=395459CT007 wrote:You get access to test versions if you buy MuLab then?mutools wrote:Next test version
You can test it too!
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 7 Mar, 2013
MuLab would be a no-brainer buy for me, if these were thoroughly improved:
+ better & easier note/MIDI editing(curves, invert, reverse, easier way to delete?, etc)
+ improved hotkey ability(eg., select different tracks/racks)
+ ability to activate/click more than 1 key at a time, in the MuLab keyboard
+ audio engine purging, when keys on the virtual keyboard get stuck
The MUX VSTi's are really nice, except for lacking a way to access presets better/quicker(inside other DAWs). For example, in MuLab I can open the MUX preset list/browser, click an instrument, then use up/down arrows to immediately change instruments/presets...but if you open this same MUX preset browser/list in another DAW, through a VST "player", you can't change presets this way Rather crippling, to a rather great plug-in!
+ better & easier note/MIDI editing(curves, invert, reverse, easier way to delete?, etc)
+ improved hotkey ability(eg., select different tracks/racks)
+ ability to activate/click more than 1 key at a time, in the MuLab keyboard
+ audio engine purging, when keys on the virtual keyboard get stuck
The MUX VSTi's are really nice, except for lacking a way to access presets better/quicker(inside other DAWs). For example, in MuLab I can open the MUX preset list/browser, click an instrument, then use up/down arrows to immediately change instruments/presets...but if you open this same MUX preset browser/list in another DAW, through a VST "player", you can't change presets this way Rather crippling, to a rather great plug-in!
- KVRAF
- 9077 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
Yes, I agree that being able to draw curves in OSC and automation would be very welcome. As would be being able to draw custom LFO shapes
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
- KVRAF
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
You can draw oscillator waveforms!Nielzie wrote:Yes, I agree that being able to draw curves in OSC
You can draw automation envelopes!and automation
You can draw customp LFO waveforms: Using a looped Multi-Point Envelope!As would be being able to draw custom LFO shapes
- KVRAF
- 9077 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
I know, I was talking about drawing curves. Now only straight lines seem to be possible.mutools wrote:You can draw oscillator waveforms!
Yes, but why isn't it possible to draw them the same way like we can do with normal OSC's (like the OSC in MuSynth)mutools wrote:You can draw customp LFO waveforms: Using a looped Multi-Point Envelope!
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No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
- KVRAF
- 7137 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Right click a node, Edit, Curve.Nielzie wrote:I know, I was talking about drawing curves. Now only straight lines seem to be possible.
- KVRAF
- 9077 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
I don't understand. If I right click the waveform of OSC 1 of the MuSynth, I don't get that option. What "nodes" are you referring to?pljones wrote:Right click a node, Edit, Curve.Nielzie wrote:I know, I was talking about drawing curves. Now only straight lines seem to be possible.
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
- KVRian
- 1441 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
I'm pretty sure it's possible. But it would be pointless. If you can already come up with what you need then why make another way to do it? Just loop the multi-point envelope editor and you've got yourself a custom LFO generator. Why make something you already have when you can make something you don't already have?Nielzie wrote:Yes, but why isn't it possible to draw them the same way like we can do with normal OSC's (like the OSC in MuSynth)mutools wrote:You can draw customp LFO waveforms: Using a looped Multi-Point Envelope!
My Setup.
Now goes by Eurydice(Izzy) - she/her
Now goes by Eurydice(Izzy) - she/her
- KVRAF
- 9077 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
Well, I'm looking at it as I'm a novice. I start the MuSynth, the main synth of MuLab. I look at the oscillators and I notice I can manually draw its waveform.. cool! But how do I draw a curve, like in a sine wave?dakkra wrote:I'm pretty sure it's possible. But it would be pointless. If you can already come up with what you need then why make another way to do it? Just loop the multi-point envelope editor and you've got yourself a custom LFO generator. Why make something you already have when you can make something you don't already have?Nielzie wrote:Yes, but why isn't it possible to draw them the same way like we can do with normal OSC's (like the OSC in MuSynth)mutools wrote:You can draw customp LFO waveforms: Using a looped Multi-Point Envelope!
Oh and I see the same waveform display on the LFO's. Let's click and draw something there then for modulating the filter cutoff.. oh clicking just selects the next waveform. But how do I draw it?
Novice, so no desire yet to go deep and modular. I only see what there is on the surface.
No band limits, aliasing is the noise of freedom!
- KVRAF
- 7137 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Sorry, misread the quoting. I was thinking automation still .Nielzie wrote:What "nodes" are you referring to?
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Jonathan Shepherd Jonathan Shepherd https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5644
- KVRian
- 635 posts since 28 Jan, 2003
Been trying the free version, nice! The multipoint envelope setup is handy, but is there a way to draw freehand curves? This thread makes it look like there isn't. No biggie if not. Thanks-
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Jonathan Shepherd Jonathan Shepherd https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5644
- KVRian
- 635 posts since 28 Jan, 2003
Well, freehand or not I bought it. I'm from the land of Podium and EXT 1 and this scratches those itches nicely(automation and modularity) and goes well beyond. The way the onboard instruments and effects are integrated is unique in the daw world. I salute you Jo-
Consider freehand draw as a FR as it would help editing of recorded parameter changes, instead of using straight line draw. Though I can live with the other options available just fine!
Im glad to be a part of this now. Thanks-
Consider freehand draw as a FR as it would help editing of recorded parameter changes, instead of using straight line draw. Though I can live with the other options available just fine!
Im glad to be a part of this now. Thanks-
- KVRAF
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Thanks for supporting the R&D of new versions Jonathan!
Wrt the automation editing: At least i want to add a function that can translate the MIDI control and parameter event recordings into multi-point envelopes. It's on the wishlist.
Wrt the automation editing: At least i want to add a function that can translate the MIDI control and parameter event recordings into multi-point envelopes. It's on the wishlist.