Making MuLab More Obvious & Easy
- KVRAF
- 2693 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
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- KVRian
- 615 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
What about a step sequencer in MuDrum? Then be able to insert patterns in the composer window, kinda like Redrum. It's very nice at 5:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3zs3SV6NQk I don't know if it will make Mulab more obvious though.
But i think of this about the multi out again that you have to go to the Mux. Maybe if a multi out instrument gets subfolders in the rack desk or something like collapsed racks?
But i think of this about the multi out again that you have to go to the Mux. Maybe if a multi out instrument gets subfolders in the rack desk or something like collapsed racks?
- KVRAF
- 2693 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Wicked idea! Even better, how about a seq in the MuX? Oh, I already said that didn't I!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
FYI: The MUX already has a sequence player. But maybe you mean a 'traditional' step sequencer? It's also on the wishlist.sl23 wrote:Wicked idea! Even better, how about a seq in the MuX? Oh, I already said that didn't I!
- KVRAF
- 2693 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant and I wasn't bumping, honest m'lud, I was jus' jestin'
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
One thing I really dislike in MuLAB is MuLAB asking me EVERY DAMN TIME what I want to do with the clip end when I stretch it. I always want to extend it, just extend it, and nothing else. It's one of most often things I do when dealing with MIDI. I think that having mouse modifiers would really help this (like, regular stretch would just extend, Ctrl+stretch would loop the source along, Alt+stretch would extend AND timestretch the MIDI data in, etc.)
I'm also not gelling well with the default "loop source" way of working (I have this disabled in Reaper as well).
I'm also not gelling well with the default "loop source" way of working (I have this disabled in Reaper as well).
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
Absolutely. I've had exactly the same thought re. modifiers to eliminate many of the prompts.EvilDragon wrote:One thing I really dislike in MuLAB is MuLAB asking me EVERY DAMN TIME what I want to do with the clip end when I stretch it. I always want to extend it, just extend it, and nothing else. It's one of most often things I do when dealing with MIDI. I think that having mouse modifiers would really help this (like, regular stretch would just extend, Ctrl+stretch would loop the source along, Alt+stretch would extend AND timestretch the MIDI data in, etc.)
Because there are too many, in my opinion. I'd map the most likely common operation as the default and then the others to the modifiers. The thing is, stuff like this is great for new users. But new users who like a program won't remain new users, and what was originally a benefit at one part of their journey with a program can quickly become a cost to the rest. I don't think the trade-off is worth it, because no-one's ever gonna go back to being a new user.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
You mean when changing the length of a selection of notes in the sequence editor?EvilDragon wrote:One thing I really dislike in MuLAB is MuLAB asking me EVERY DAMN TIME what I want to do with the clip end when I stretch it.
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Hmmm... No, I mean changing the length of the looped section in the MIDI editor, I think. There should be an option to disable this looping behavior (both globally and per item). I just want to extend the length of the item without any looping, this is by far one of most often things I'm doing when composing. And I can't see a way to do this extending from the arrange. Alt+dragging clip edge will just loop the source. I don't want that, I just want to grab the edge (without modifiers) to extend the item...
Reaper is super fast in this regard - it will even auto-extend an item if I enter a new note in MIDI editor that's outside the item range. That would be awesome as well.
I believe the best way to deal with this is to have a mouse modifier section - it's a lot of work (as it was in Reaper's case, too), but it provides the best possible flexibility.
BTW, just a disclaimer - I don't want MuLAB to become Reaper, that's not what I'm asking for, and I presume that's what Jo doesn't want either. However, a good feature is a good feature, and Reaper is chock full of them.
Reaper is super fast in this regard - it will even auto-extend an item if I enter a new note in MIDI editor that's outside the item range. That would be awesome as well.
I believe the best way to deal with this is to have a mouse modifier section - it's a lot of work (as it was in Reaper's case, too), but it provides the best possible flexibility.
BTW, just a disclaimer - I don't want MuLAB to become Reaper, that's not what I'm asking for, and I presume that's what Jo doesn't want either. However, a good feature is a good feature, and Reaper is chock full of them.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Sequence parts are only looped if there is a loop in the sequence. To remove a loop in a sequence delete the 'Loop End' marker.EvilDragon wrote:No, I mean changing the length of the item (or how you call it, clip). By default it will loop the source (which I dislike) - doesn't matter if I do it from arrange or from MIDI editor. There should be an option to disable this behavior. I just want to extend the length of the item without any looping.
When drawing a new empty sequence part, MuLab indeed auto sets a loop at the end point of the newly drawn part. Maybe that's something you don't like?
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Yeah, that's it, I guess. It's the same as "Loop source" being default in Reaper, each item you draw in is automatically looped for the length you've drawn in. Since I'm not really into loop-based production, I disable this default behavior so that each item is created without being looped.
BTW sorry if my terminology is out of whack. I'm still acquainting myself to MuLAB
BTW sorry if my terminology is out of whack. I'm still acquainting myself to MuLAB
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Also - is there any way to change the mousewheel behavior for zooming/scrolling?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I've added a note on the wishlist about adding a preference for this. By the way, fyi: There also is a note on the wishlist to make all preferences editable from within the app so it gets much more easy to find and edit preferences.EvilDragon wrote:Yeah, that's it, I guess. It's the same as "Loop source" being default in Reaper, each item you draw in is automatically looped for the length you've drawn in. Since I'm not really into loop-based production, I disable this default behavior so that each item is created without being looped.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12739 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Yes: See http://www.mutools.com/info/docs/common ... ences.htmlEvilDragon wrote:Also - is there any way to change the mousewheel behavior for zooming/scrolling?
Look for the EditorNavigation preference.
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Yeah, you definitely need to have Preferences window in-app. That's kinda the norm, anyways? Most programs have "Preferences", "Properties", "Options", usually, no?
Thanks for pointing me to the docs, I'll have a closer look at them.
Thanks for pointing me to the docs, I'll have a closer look at them.