midi mapping Augustus Loop delay time slider in Ableton Live (for use with Lemur on iPad)

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hi,

I'm trying to set up a midi mapping so that I can control AL's delay time slider with Lemur. Using midi learn, Live picks up the mapping but when I move the slider on my controller (Lemur) it doesn't control the delay time slider properly. I only get the extreme values (ie, either all the way to the left or all the way to the right) with nothing in between. Can you help?

By the way, I would rather use OSC than MIDI for higher resolution but I can't make head nor tail of the manual for using OSC. For someone new to setting up this stuff it's very complicated!!

thanks

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hi, I think I've figured out what's happening here...

It seems the mapped control can only reflect the full range between 0 and 3600 seconds. I had set my max to 30 seconds and wanted the fader to represent the values between 0 and 30. Is this possible?

Thanks!!

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You'd want to control the delay slider via MIDI CC 12 (as per the manual).

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Hi and thanks for the reply. Yes, I've mapped the delay slider to CC12 but I still have the same problem. The control that I've set up is scaling to the full range (0 - 3600) but I have the slider in the plugin set to reflect my chosen max delay of 30 seconds. I want the control on the Lemur to scale to this range. Is it possible to do this?
thanks!

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You can't use Live's MIDI learn for this. You have to send the MIDI CC directly to the plug-in.

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ah, that's where I'm going wrong then. I used the CC numbers from the manual but I still had to midi learn all the parameters to get it working. How do I send the CC directly to the plugin?
Thanks!

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Open up a MIDI track, set its input to wherever the MIDI's coming from, set its output to the plug-in. Set the monitoring mode to On.

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thanks os, I'll try it :-)

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hi os, I managed to get this working and now have control over the delay slider as I wanted. I still have to midi learn parameters to get two-way midi communication with Lemur but I can live without 2-way for the delay slider.

I now have an additional question. I am trying to map the tap delay's so that I can select rhythmically useful values (25, 50, 75 etc). I initially tried using a grid on a fader so that the values were stepped in 5 increments (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) but the values do not correspond exactly with the delay times I want (increment 1 shows as 25.2 instead of 25, increment 3 as 50.39 instead of 50 and increment 4 as 74.8 instead of 75). Which means the timing is out of course! So I think I may need to use a script. I need to know exactly what values to send to the plugin to be able to get clean 25, 50 and 75 on the delay time taps.

I hope I've explained myself clearly and that you can help!

Thanks

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You would set the exact values you want e.g. 25, 50, 75. The trick is writing the script to translate incoming MIDI CCs to those values.

But given you're using a Lemur would OSC not be easier? Using registerOSCPathForParameter() would be easiest (see the docs).

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Ok, I've had a look at the OSC control section of the manual but I don't really understand what I'm supposed to do to set it up. Can you explain it in simple terms? I'm a bit lost!

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Mac or Windows?

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Windows

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Bump for some help setting this up please!

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Make an empty text file.

Add script e.g.

registerOSCPathForParameter( "/1/fader1", "Pitch" )

Save as "something.lua" in

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Expert Sleepers\Augustus Loop\Scripts

Turn on OSC in the plug-in (see the manual).

Set up the Lemur to send to the address/port your have AL listening on.

Set up your control to send to the OSC path in your script ("/1/fader1" in the example above).

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