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Malefica (DC16)

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Chris-S
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Postby Chris-S; Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:38 pm Malefica (DC16)

Hi,
I can't find the oversampling and stereo switch. :borg:
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Chris-S
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Postby Chris-S; Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:51 pm Re: Malefica (DC16)

Found. :tu:
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DSmolken
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Postby DSmolken; Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:40 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

I see Windows version got updated - does it still try to write text logs to the plugin folder?
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Chris-S
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Postby Chris-S; Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:05 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

I've version 1.0.1 installed and this creates two files in the malefica-VST directory:

Malefica_java_stdout.txt
Malefica_log.txt

Shouldn't be a problem if your VST dir is writable.
DSmolken
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Postby DSmolken; Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:22 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Right, that works. But if your VST directory is in Program Files, it's not good security practice to allow non-admin users to write to it.
Evil Sound Lab
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Postby Evil Sound Lab; Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:54 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

DSmolken wrote:Right, that works. But if your VST directory is in Program Files, it's not good security practice to allow non-admin users to write to it.

We will try to fix it in next Malefica plug-in version (1.0.2)! Thank you!
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Postby Compyfox; Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:20 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Can there be a JAVA-less release outside of the DC challenge?

The plugin refuses to recognize the already installed SDK. So... no chance to test, no possible points to give.
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Postby Evil Sound Lab; Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:02 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Compyfox wrote:Can there be a JAVA-less release outside of the DC challenge?

No, we write our plug-ins and tools in Java. But we plan to distribute Malefica with installer which will check whether the JRE is installed.

Compyfox wrote:The plugin refuses to recognize the already installed SDK. So... no chance to test, no possible points to give.

You did not read Installation Notes from Malefica page:
(important) Download and install Oracle Java SE Runtime Environment 8 (or higher, x86 version for 32-bit plug-in version and x64 version for 64-bit plug-in version).
You can found it by the link.
We
strongly
recommend to download Online or Offline package versions (not just .tar.gz archive) (e.g. Windows x86 Online/Offline, Windows x64 Online/Offline), because they prepare necessary environment variables (PATH and JAVA_HOME);

Not SDK/JDK, but JRE only. Please to install plug-in properly perform this step of Installation Notes carefully.

Thank for your interest for our plug-in!
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Postby Evil Sound Lab; Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:05 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Evil Sound Lab wrote:
Compyfox wrote:Can there be a JAVA-less release outside of the DC challenge?

No, we write our plug-ins and tools in Java. But we plan to distribute Malefica with installer which will check whether the JRE is installed.

Compyfox wrote:The plugin refuses to recognize the already installed SDK. So... no chance to test, no possible points to give.

You did not read Installation Notes from Malefica page:
(important) Download and install Oracle Java SE Runtime Environment 8 (or higher, x86 version for 32-bit plug-in version and x64 version for 64-bit plug-in version).
You can found it by the link.
We strongly recommend to download Online or Offline package versions (not just .tar.gz archive) (e.g. Windows x86 Online/Offline, Windows x64 Online/Offline), because they prepare necessary environment variables (PATH and JAVA_HOME);

Not SDK/JDK, but JRE only. Please to install plug-in properly perform this step of Installation Notes carefully.

Thank for your interest for our plug-in!
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Postby Compyfox; Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:17 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Evil Sound Lab wrote:Not SDK/JDK, but JRE only. Please to install plug-in properly perform this step of Installation Notes carefully.


Apparently, this is not enough then...
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And I do use Open Office (which uses this "JRE").


Evil Sound Lab wrote:
Compyfox wrote:Can there be a JAVA-less release outside of the DC challenge?

No, we write our plug-ins and tools in Java. But we plan to distribute Malefica with installer which will check whether the JRE is installed.


Well, alright then...


Evil Sound Lab wrote:Thank for your interest for our plug-in!


Guess I just lost interest in it.
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Postby Evil Sound Lab; Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:14 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Compyfox wrote:Guess I just lost interest in it.

It's no big deal. Good luck!

p.s. all exceptional situations are described in "Important Note". You are studio owner, CTO of Mix Challenge (and many other), but you unable to read something that called "Important Note"? :dog:
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Postby Compyfox; Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:23 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Right - let's blow a bit below the belt. Fine with me...

I just don't see a reason to install another JAVA related "run time environment" if I already have one on my rig - and apparently it's not enough/not recognized (it's the right one even)... that's just too many hoops to jump through just to get a tool running to be honest.

Also... the "Important notice" was not part of the download package. The Readme also links to a "webpage" rather than stating "this is what you might run into". So those that are on offline rigs, are ultimately screwed.


I'd say... get the update done, try to fix this issue. Then I'll take another look. But as of this moment, not worth it to me trying to fix something that should work right out of the box.
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Postby Evil Sound Lab; Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:37 pm Re: Malefica (DC16)

Compyfox wrote:Right - let's blow a bit below the belt. Fine with me...

All right, and I apologize for my rudeness.

Compyfox wrote:I just don't see a reason to install another JAVA related "run time environment" if I already have one on my rig - and apparently it's not enough/not recognized (it's the right one even)... that's just too many hoops to jump through just to get a tool running to be honest.

Unfortunately, we do not know why your JRE version is not suited. Frankly speaking, it's an interesting issue. We will think about it and try to test Malefica plug-in on your Java version.

Compyfox wrote:The Readme also links to a "webpage" rather than stating "this is what you might run into". So those that are on offline rigs, are ultimately screwed.

We thought that "offline" is a legend today :) , but accepted - the Readme should be attached to the concrete product version, we will make it handy.

Compyfox wrote:I'd say... get the update done, try to fix this issue. Then I'll take another look. But as of this moment, not worth it to me trying to fix something that should work right out of the box.

We know this issue, but we didn't have time to resolve it up to the Challenge. There were painful details that preventing us to fix it quickly. But we totally agree with you that it should work right OOB and user shouldn't know about Java/JRE at all.

We will try to fix it and will inform you!
Thank you for peacefulness and for your care!
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Postby Compyfox; Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:30 pm Re: Malefica (DC16)

Looking froward to the update then... :tu:


BTW:
My rig is not "offline" - but I have many clients that turn off their LAN/WLAN while working...
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Chris-S
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Postby Chris-S; Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:21 am Re: Malefica (DC16)

Hi,
you can edit the ini file to tell the plugin where your JRE is located.
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