What is a groove?

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Anyone have a simple definition?
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It's the underlying set of pulses on which events happen the most, each with certain characteristics, such as a probabilistic weight and degree of accent. In short, it's the most basic of rhythmic expectations as based on what the listener has already heard. This is why loops are sometimes called grooves.

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But what about grooves with pitch (i.e. bass and melodic sorts of grooves)?

Surely no one would deny there is such a thing as a bass groove. Are you saying that is only referring to the bass rhythm?
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A recurrent pattern of rhythmic micro-deviations?

I mean, if you consistently play a certain ostinato ahead of the beat by a certain tiny amount, that would generate a groove. A different one would emerge if you consistently extend the weak notes, generating syncopation feeling, for instance... swing in jazz is a kind of groove.
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an optimist lives in a groove, a pessimist lives in a rut.
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A.M. Gold wrote:But what about grooves with pitch (i.e. bass and melodic sorts of grooves)?

Surely no one would deny there is such a thing as a bass groove. Are you saying that is only referring to the bass rhythm?
Well, there are shades of meaning to the word. To me, it's primarily rhythmic, and that's the academic meaning as far as I'm concerned. In a more loose sense you can think of a groove as any set of tendencies, rhythmic, melodic, habitual. Like a literal physical groove, it's a low energy state, the path of least resistance and maximum momentum. The concept can apply to anything.
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It's the space you leave in between...
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werp wrote:an optimist lives in a groove, a pessimist lives in a rut.
I really like this. Very cool.

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I've heard people referring to a primarily rhythmic or bass track as "a groove track". :)
I guess the "groove track" would be the underlying rhythmic and melodic foundation of the song, the track that "creates the groove".

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It is any pattern or path that produces dopamine.
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Sendy wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:But what about grooves with pitch (i.e. bass and melodic sorts of grooves)?

Surely no one would deny there is such a thing as a bass groove. Are you saying that is only referring to the bass rhythm?
Well, there are shades of meaning to the word. To me, it's primarily rhythmic, and that's the academic meaning as far as I'm concerned. In a more loose sense you can think of a groove as any set of tendencies, rhythmic, melodic, habitual. Like a literal physical groove, it's a low energy state, the path of least resistance and maximum momentum. The concept can apply to anything.
Dave Pensado said JJP says "just get a groove going". JJP is a bass player. I'm not sure exactly what either one of them means by that but Pensado was reacting to a sweet little snippet of acoustic guitar strumming that had a clear, catchy chord progression (and a great rhythm with strong momentum for the song).
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As simple as i can put it: something that makes you start bobbing your head to it... :-)
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