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Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri May 16, 2014 10:13 pm

Sendy wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:
EDIT: Now that we have "slow food", maybe there will be "slow trance", too?
Yeah, it's called ambient?

Only if you treat it with PaulStretch!

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Fri May 16, 2014 10:27 pm

I think it depends on the vibe/feeling you want to achieve. One chord works well for minimal or tracks that feel techno-ish and very electronic.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:37 am

Ok, I realized that the OP did mention a track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUk8oO6Tins

..and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_jfKv9PE8

..and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v98TIJ68ci8

..and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO_PlfyDpVk

Enjoy!

stillshaded · Post by **stillshaded** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:43 am

A good melody (often) implies a chord progression.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat May 17, 2014 4:17 am

stillshaded wrote:A good melody (often) implies a chord progression.

according to melody?

stillshaded · Post by **stillshaded** » Sat May 17, 2014 5:01 am

Hink wrote:
stillshaded wrote:A good melody (often) implies a chord progression.
according to melody?

I'm afraid I don't follow you.

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Sat May 17, 2014 5:19 am

stillshaded wrote:A good melody (often) implies a chord progression.

A melody that implies some sense of resolution does. The Beatles' Tomorrow Never Knows is all about not resolving.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat May 17, 2014 6:33 am

Juljan wrote:I looked up some house music remakes on YouTube, for example Sebastian Ingrosso-Reload.

I just listened to this, it has a chord progression. Just ask Bach, any time the bass is playing a different note from the melody, that's a chord. Most popular EDM has chord progressions of some sort, you're just not recognizing them as such because they're not chords on a single keyboard.

JumpingJackFlash · Post by **JumpingJackFlash** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:16 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:Most so called "chord progressions" consist of 4 (or more) chords. I've never seen any chord progression with 2 chords only...

hueynym wrote:A "Chord Progression" is when one chord goes to another chord. If you are composing diatonic music, regardless of genre, and use notes outside of a single chromatic scale, you are using a chord progression. It may be 2 chords going back and forth, it may be 4 chords. If it goes from one discernible chord to another, it's a progression.

If we're going to get technical, then literally speaking, at least with tonal music, a "progression" has to move towards the tonic according to the principles of functional harmony. So ii-V and V-I are both "progressions".

V-ii on the other hand (for example) moves in the other direction and is therefore a "retrogression" instead. (The clue is in the names.)

This is admittedly pedantic, and most people nowadays use the term "progression" to refer to any series of (any number of) chords though (which is fine).

Sorry, I know this isn't relevant to the OP - feel free to ignore.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:38 pm

JumpingJackFlash wrote:If we're going to get technical, then literally speaking, at least with tonal music, a "progression" has to move towards the tonic according to the principles of functional harmony. So ii-V and V-I are both "progressions".

V-ii on the other hand (for example) moves in the other direction and is therefore a "retrogression" instead. (The clue is in the names.)

Did you mean I-V as a "progression"? Otherwise, V-I moves in the other direction, too, as well as V-ii...

MadBrain · Post by **MadBrain** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:55 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:
JumpingJackFlash wrote:If we're going to get technical, then literally speaking, at least with tonal music, a "progression" has to move towards the tonic according to the principles of functional harmony. So ii-V and V-I are both "progressions".

V-ii on the other hand (for example) moves in the other direction and is therefore a "retrogression" instead. (The clue is in the names.)
Did you mean I-V as a "progression"? Otherwise, V-I moves in the other direction, too, as well as V-ii...

Retrogressions are just a peculiar type of progression (essentially they're "standard" progressions in reverse and without cadences). I-V resolves way to strongly to really be a retrogression imho (retrogressions tend to have really weak resolutions).

JumpingJackFlash · Post by **JumpingJackFlash** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:23 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:Did you mean I-V as a "progression"? Otherwise, V-I moves in the other direction, too, as well as V-ii...

No, V-I moves towards the tonic as I said.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:30 pm

JumpingJackFlash wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:Did you mean I-V as a "progression"? Otherwise, V-I moves in the other direction, too, as well as V-ii...
No, V-I moves towards the tonic as I said.

But then it's a cadence... Or is a cadence a progression?

JumpingJackFlash · Post by **JumpingJackFlash** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:36 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:
JumpingJackFlash wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:Did you mean I-V as a "progression"? Otherwise, V-I moves in the other direction, too, as well as V-ii...
No, V-I moves towards the tonic as I said.
But then it's a cadence... Or is a cadence a progression?

Not every V-I is a cadence (or to put it another way, V-I is not necessarily a cadence).
Even if it was, it would still be a progression (in and of itself), hence "cadential progression"

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:41 pm

Now I still don't understand why V-I is a progression and V-ii is a retrogression...

Is chord progression necessary?