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Monib · Post by **Monib** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:36 am

Hey Guys,

Do you know of any artists that compose using meter other then 4/4? Songs/Artists would be helpful. Genre doesn't matter, other the Electronica. I am trying to analyze meter/rhythm in music, and this would be helpful.

Thanks in advance,
Monib

MadBrain · Post by **MadBrain** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:40 pm

6/8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2wbRWb9xI

blackflag · Post by **blackflag** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:43 pm

Pretty much every Venetian Snares track is in 5/4 or 7/4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUN3wcZPzaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy-JdQmzVTs

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:49 pm

The beats on the Autechre Anti EP was tailored made so that it couldn't be defined as repetetive beats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_EP

Chapelle · Post by **Chapelle** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:13 pm

EW95 · Post by **EW95** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:41 pm

As said before, venetian snares loves his quintuple and septuple meters for some reason, pretty much the king of it among electronic music

other than that,

abstraction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMshisVuP1I

penthouse penthouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyBc8qvvUI#t=108s

Monib · Post by **Monib** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:16 am

Thanks guys! I'll take a listen to these Artists... Any others?

Lost_Highway · Post by **Lost_Highway** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:01 pm

Progressive rock is a vast, untapped mine of non-boring time signatures

I've spotted a fair bit of 7/8 in Camel, especially on the album Rajaz (I think the track Lost and Found is the most prominent one). I seem to recall there's some odd stuff on Moonmadness as well.

Pink Floyd's Money is a very well-known example, in 7/4 but it drifts into 4/4 because Gilmour was reputedly too shit to solo in seven

Tubular Bells, lots of 70s Genesis, Yes, bits of Jethro Tull, King Crimson (the middle section of Starless is a good example, plus their re-working of Holst's Mars, as The Devil's Triangle, on In The Wake of Poseidon), pretty much all Änglagård, etc etc etc.

And that's before you start getting onto stuff like math rock...

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:07 pm

Lost_Highway wrote:Progressive rock is a vast, untapped mine of non-boring time signatures

+1

Try:

Marillion - Lords Of The Backstage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1jFqJgq1A

Gentle Giant - So Sincere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWvj6VyYGg

Gone soft · Post by **Gone soft** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:10 pm

I know embrassingly little about meter when it comes to recognizing what meter something is in, but I remember the "Orbus Terrarum" album from The Orb pissed off alot of people who didn't see the point of combining meters in some tracks so patterns of uneven lengths would be weaving in and out of their relationships with each other.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:34 pm

V-GER wrote:I know embrassingly little about meter when it comes to recognizing what meter something is in, but I remember the "Orbus Terrarum" album from The Orb pissed off alot of people who didn't see the point of combining meters in some tracks so patterns of uneven lengths would be weaving in and out of their relationships with each other.

Reminds me of when someone was talking about Mr. Fingers tracks, I think it was Washing Machine, he was like "It's ok, but why couldn't he be bothered to get the loops to line up like in other tracks?". He saw the polyrhythm as an error, because, you know, sequencers are designed to move in lockstep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghD-YC9ot3Q

Now that's what you call rigid thinking.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:36 pm

BTW, when you mention Orbus Terrarum, there's a track, I think it's Oxbow Lakes, with the piano. I believe the phrases in that track don't even have predictable barlines. You have phrases of 3, 4, 5, 6 beats strung together. There might be a longform repeating pattern, but if there is, it's not immediately discernable.

Electronic music with a regular tempo but without regular barlines is extremely rare, but interesting to me.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:40 pm

Sendy wrote:Now that's what you call rigid thinking.

+1 That was kind of the thing that got me off drum'n'bass

Used to like it lots around 95-96, but by 97-98 the rhythm had more or less got standarized to kick on beat 1 and 11, snare on 5 and 13, easier to mix I guess, DJ Krust, Roni Size, boring

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:46 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Sendy wrote:Now that's what you call rigid thinking.
+1 That was kind of the thing that got me off drum'n'bass

Used to like it lots around 95-96, but by 97-98 the rhythm had more or less got standarized to kick on beat 1 and 11, snare on 5 and 13, easier to mix I guess, DJ Krust, Roni Size, boring

Yeah, don't even get me started on that

I could rant for hours. Jungle and early drum and bass was mostly in 4/4, but a lot of the rhythms could transcend that little box, they were bursting out of the conatiner, through barlines... heavy heavy syncopation coupled with lots of oomph on the downbeat. That's funky.

fese · Post by **fese** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:38 pm

Also, early Pink Floyd (e.g. piper at the gates of dawn), Sydney Barrett freely adapts the meter to the syllables of his lyrics, e.g.
- Bike (4/4, 5/4, 6/4, 7/4)
- jug band blues
- scarecrow
- See-saw (by Rick Wright, practically everything from 3/8 to 12/8)

I really like it when songs have unusual meters while still being catchy, "Money" is an excellent example of that, and of course also "Take Five"

Btw, isn't "Boten Anna" a classic 4/4 with just the synth hook in triplets??

Electronica Music in Meter Other Then 4/4???