New entry level version of Ableton Live
- KVRAF
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- 8620 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
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- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 13 Jul, 2004
vst limitation. that's sucks, simply. Limit the tracks, the inputs, the sends, whatever, but number of effects and vsts??? more expensive than p5, LESS features and STUPID limitations.
- KVRAF
- 8680 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
I think they stripped it a bit too far. The instrument/fx limitations are boarding to the ridiculous.
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- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 13 Jul, 2004
and the regular users just pay 300€ just to unlock some features. That's really starnge. everything is here but totally limited in LE, you just have to pay 300€ to use the features as you want. In fact, the complete version didn't give you more features, it just give you the right to use them without limitation. that's the worse case I seen.
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
Indeed.spaceman wrote:I think they stripped it a bit too far. The instrument/fx limitations are boarding to the ridiculous.
I can't justify the full-blown Live 6. But this is too stripped to motivate me to buy. I'll stick with P5V2, and I have Live 6 Lite if I feel like re-installing it.
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 23 Jun, 2005
I'm normally an Ableton fan, but the effects limitations are a very bad joke. I would recommend every budget sequencer I can think of (P5, Garageband, Sonar Home Studio, Tracktion, Reaper, etc.) over this.
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- KVRian
- 660 posts since 19 Mar, 2001 from berlin / germany
i always hoped for a smaller live-version, but this is too small.
i wouldn't use it for producing so the instrument/fx limitations wouldn't be such a big problem for me, but the limitation to only 8 scenes and no midi(-clock) for external synths makes it nearly unusable, i think.
i wouldn't use it for producing so the instrument/fx limitations wouldn't be such a big problem for me, but the limitation to only 8 scenes and no midi(-clock) for external synths makes it nearly unusable, i think.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
I find it strange the plugin/effects limitations aren't significantly higher than what you already get in the bundled Live Lite. I keep Live Lite around for testing and occasionally fiddling about with it, I'd have considered an upgrade to LE if they did something like limit the number of tracks (like a total 8 tracks, split between audio/MIDI as you like, or even limiting you to just the session view) but offered unlimited plugins/instruments/effects.
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- KVRAF
- 6254 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Well, it is a "light" version, so they've got to do something to get you to upgrade. But only 2 VSTi's per project is a serious limitation.spaceman wrote:I think they stripped it a bit too far. The instrument/fx limitations are boarding to the ridiculous.
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
- Beware the Quoth
- 33131 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Good as a scratchpad, or for working in that 'loop' stylee that dont really need plugins, as quite a lot of people do.
For 1/3rd the price of Live, its a fairly decent entry-level offering, with the same kind of limitations as most company's entry-level gear. They could be a bit more generous, on plugin limits though. And reinstate ReWire.
If you wanted to up your plugin count, the usual subhost provisions (eXT et al) should be more than adequate.
Decent offering, IMO.
For 1/3rd the price of Live, its a fairly decent entry-level offering, with the same kind of limitations as most company's entry-level gear. They could be a bit more generous, on plugin limits though. And reinstate ReWire.
If you wanted to up your plugin count, the usual subhost provisions (eXT et al) should be more than adequate.
Decent offering, IMO.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 35130 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
I rarely use more than a couple of vsts at a time. I tend to render stuff to audio as I go ... so this would work for me. Price is OK too IMHO
Anyway, I already bought the full version, and have an update to install
Anyway, I already bought the full version, and have an update to install
- KVRAF
- 8680 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
not for that price thoughwhyterabbyt wrote:Good as a scratchpad, or for working in that 'loop' stylee that dont really need plugins, as quite a lot of people do.
For 1/3rd the price of Live, its a fairly decent entry-level offering, with the same kind of limitations as most company's entry-level gear. They could be a bit more generous, on plugin limits though. And reinstate ReWire.
If you wanted to up your plugin count, the usual subhost provisions (eXT et al) should be more than adequate.
Decent offering, IMO.
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
Well I think that for 149USD it's good value overall.
I do agree about the VST limitation, and even more serious in my opinion, leaving out rewire. With ReWire I imagine a lot of users of alternative hosts would grab it for it's looping capabilities, and rewire it into their main host. But they've now missed that potential market.
I get the overall impression that this is aimed as an alternative to Sequel, and I suspect/hope they go all out on the advertising into that noob market.
Again on the price, it's better imho than Acid Music Studio (which only allows 16-bit recording/audio) or Sequel (which has no plugin ability whatever). So at least a good offering from Ableton, and nice to see them recognise another layer of the market
I do agree about the VST limitation, and even more serious in my opinion, leaving out rewire. With ReWire I imagine a lot of users of alternative hosts would grab it for it's looping capabilities, and rewire it into their main host. But they've now missed that potential market.
I get the overall impression that this is aimed as an alternative to Sequel, and I suspect/hope they go all out on the advertising into that noob market.
Again on the price, it's better imho than Acid Music Studio (which only allows 16-bit recording/audio) or Sequel (which has no plugin ability whatever). So at least a good offering from Ableton, and nice to see them recognise another layer of the market