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very right, EMM Knagalis needs new preset and possibly a Mac version,
ok, so, this pool result so far asks me mailnly for updates, but since I also one make new products some old ones must retire: candidates to legacy (do you say so in english??) are: - Astrobelt Mother Ship - Groove Analogizer - Pizza Synth - Microrock - Marimka (though the same resonator will be in Beams&Vibes or Modelonia update, so the sound is not lost) |
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I can understand why you'd want to move away from the sample based stuff, but I'd suggest that sample/PM hybrids might still be interesting, particularly in the 'ethnic/folk instrument' area you seem to cover more than anyone else. I think thats a strength of yours, TBH, in that you cover a ground that is uniquely yours with that focus, and, although I dont know if its profitable I'd like to think you probably pick up a lot of 'one trick pony' type sales because you do have a lot of products that are quite focussed.
I also like seeing a dev who produces slightly more off-the-wall stuff like Groove Analogizer and the like, but I can imagine thats a bit more niche. It'd be a shame for things like those to disappear, but if you're going to play to your strengths, then its got to be those Personally, although Knaglis is very much the rompler-type product you're talking about veering away from, I actually think that combining that sort of product with acoustic resonance/string/drone modules is the kind of thing that would keep that sense of continuity/cohesion without getting too bread-and-butter. But I suppose the balance is development time versus sales. Some people seem to do very well with one product (and constant remarketing), but I like the fact that you do such diverse stuff. I think Im more inclined to buy lots of interesting little things, but I guess I dont know if the market swings that way. I dont know, maybe it is worth focussing on something 'bigger' (say Modelonia 2) as a 'flagship', with a more complex architecture (say the addition of elements of some of the other PM/hybrid engines?) Oh, and for the record, BDM is one of the most fun plugins Ive owned in years. Please dont ever stop doing stuff like that ---- To laymen, software development is something akin to wizardry. Neither time, nor effort are involved. If software is missing features they want, or has bugs, it is solely because someone has been too lazy to wave their magic wand. |
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whyterabbyt wrote: I can understand why you'd want to move away from the sample based stuff, but I'd suggest that sample/PM hybrids might still be interesting, particularly in the 'ethnic/folk instrument' area you seem to cover more than anyone else. I think thats a strength of yours, TBH, in that you cover a ground that is uniquely yours with that focus, and, although I dont know if its profitable I'd like to think you probably pick up a lot of 'one trick pony' type sales because you do have a lot of products that are quite focussed.
Yes that's not much different of what I think, when I think of the sample based stuff I think mostly about DK+ and EVE which "needs" a huge library of sounds. Knagalis is sample based as well but it sold more that EVE even though its library is tiny fraction of the one EVE has. And you have a good point on the 'ethnic/folk instrument' area and the PM hybrids is maybe my way to go. The 'one trick pony' type sales are not making huge numbers but so far that was enough for me and anyway it seems is the best kind of synths I can do. Quote: I also like seeing a dev who produces slightly more off-the-wall stuff like Groove Analogizer and the like, but I can imagine thats a bit more niche. It'd be a shame for things like those to disappear, but if you're going to play to your strengths, then its got to be those Groove Analogizer is one of my favourite ideas but the worst selling product ever, that should mean something but I'm afraid to think about that, <grin>. Anyway BDM seems to do better so far and recover on that. Quote: Personally, although Knaglis is very much the rompler-type product you're talking about veering away from, I actually think that combining that sort of product with acoustic resonance/string/drone modules is the kind of thing that would keep that sense of continuity/cohesion without getting too bread-and-butter. yes, as said above, Knagalis will stay and will evolve, maybe in the direction you say Quote: But I suppose the balance is development time versus sales. Some people seem to do very well with one product (and constant remarketing), but I like the fact that you do such diverse stuff. I think Im more inclined to buy lots of interesting little things, but I guess I dont know if the market swings that way. I dont know, maybe it is worth focussing on something 'bigger' (say Modelonia 2) as a 'flagship', with a more complex architecture (say the addition of elements of some of the other PM/hybrid engines?) again that's correct IMHO, and I have to make a choice here, I thought about a Modelonia 2 with Marimka and Microrock inside, maybe it will pay off, maybe not. Alrenatively I could derive other small single instruments from Modelonia and let the family of 'one trick pony' synths grow, mm... looks like we can have another poll here, <grin> But one thing for sure, if the target is realism then small PM synths do better, even AAS which started with Tassman, then went for focused instruments, EP and guitars, Quote: Oh, and for the record, BDM is one of the most fun plugins Ive owned in years. Please dont ever stop doing stuff like that Thanks wr! Yes indeed, I really appreciate your words Best regards |
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I agree with everything whyterabbit said. Better to play to your strengths and throw in the occasional oddity to satisfy your own creative needs.
liqih wrote: Quote: But I suppose the balance is development time versus sales. Some people seem to do very well with one product (and constant remarketing), but I like the fact that you do such diverse stuff. I think Im more inclined to buy lots of interesting little things, but I guess I dont know if the market swings that way. I dont know, maybe it is worth focussing on something 'bigger' (say Modelonia 2) as a 'flagship', with a more complex architecture (say the addition of elements of some of the other PM/hybrid engines?) again that's correct IMHO, and I have to make a choice here, I thought about a Modelonia 2 with Marimka and Microrock inside, maybe it will pay off, maybe not. Alrenatively I could derive other small single instruments from Modelonia and let the family of 'one trick pony' synths grow, mm... looks like we can have another poll here, <grin> But one thing for sure, if the target is realism then small PM synths do better, even AAS which started with Tassman, then went for focused instruments, EP and guitars, Whilst I love the sound of Modelonia I mostly just adjust a preset rather than create something from scratch lest I fall in to tweakers hell and spend a day trying to create the exact sound I think I want <smile> A suite of less complex one trick pony PM synths - The Modelling Suite(TM) <grin> and a full on bells & whistles (and strings and horns) modular flaghsip synth capable of merging the different PM models together makes a lot of sense to me. Then again I'm just a user not a developer/businessman <shrug> liqih wrote: Quote: Oh, and for the record, BDM is one of the most fun plugins Ive owned in years. Please dont ever stop doing stuff like that Thanks wr! Yes indeed, I really appreciate your words Best regards BDM is like software crack <grin> I'm still whiling away hours here just basically messing around playing with the sounds. Cheers Steve |
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The idea of small pm-synths seems to be a quite good idea. I use marimka a lot and i like to have powerful specialized tiny tools in a track in combination with some effects. They're really secret weapons like the new synths in Live that derive from AAS-products or Xoxos' models.
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Hi,
thanks guys, the first two updates will be Modelonia 1.7 and HarpTime 2.0 http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3007750#300775 0 |
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maybe some mac users were waiting for Microrock Pro UB?
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=211901 |
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first off, I am on mac.
secondly, I love the simple, one trick pony PM synths that don't cost a lot of money. They're a cheap way for me to grab a new sound to work with. |
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I am all for new instruments. That said, I would love to see more modelled instrument creation synths (like Modelonia, but for other instruments).
For example, a string/violin modeller, a guitar modeller, a piano modeller (like pianoteq, but with your finesse and creativity in programming), a woodwind modeller, the percussion modeller sounds wonderful - add gongs and massive drums, like frame drums, timpani, indian drums, etc to that as well. Then, to make us all happy, update synths as needed. If it ain't broke, no need to fix it unless excellent suggestions come your way. You have ALWAYS been there for your clients and potential clients and have a loyal following. Your prices are excellent and competitive in the marketplace and your products bring true value for what we pay, so you are doing everything correctly! Mike |
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I'd like to see Modelonia and Groove Analogizer for Mac. I have both but I'm using my PC less and less and I really miss them ---- Mac Mini, Cubase 6, Fireface 800. |
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Karmacomposer wrote: I am all for new instruments. That said, I would love to see more modelled instrument creation synths (like Modelonia, but for other instruments).
For example, a string/violin modeller, a guitar modeller, a piano modeller (like pianoteq, but with your finesse and creativity in programming), a woodwind modeller, the percussion modeller sounds wonderful - add gongs and massive drums, like frame drums, timpani, indian drums, etc to that as well. Then, to make us all happy, update synths as needed. If it ain't broke, no need to fix it unless excellent suggestions come your way. You have ALWAYS been there for your clients and potential clients and have a loyal following. Your prices are excellent and competitive in the marketplace and your products bring true value for what we pay, so you are doing everything correctly! Mike Thanks for the good words! |
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edoosx wrote: I'd like to see Modelonia and Groove Analogizer for Mac. I have both but I'm using my PC less and less and I really miss them
Thanks, it's cool that you appreciate them so much, <grin> unfortunately I dond't think Groove Analogizer will be ported, but Modelonia for Mac is coming |
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liqih wrote: Knagalis will stay and will evolve, maybe in the direction you say |
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After many days I must say that the response from the Mac users is pretty low,
is that for the kvraudio.com forums are mostly PC users ? Or that after all NUSofting synths didn't actually make it thru the Mac user base? |
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I'm a Mac user and big fan of your stuff and own many of your VI's. I think that word hasn't spread about your stuff to the Mac community. I do what I can to spread the word. Please keep supporting Mac!!!! |
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