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is there some sustain vst?

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suncica2222
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60 posts since 20 Sep, 2007

Postby suncica2222; Sat May 10, 2008 11:17 am is there some sustain vst?

to insert before Guitar Rig 3 in Cubase or FL ,because notes are to short in GR3 as it is now.
So ,it would be nice ,if someone come up whit plug-in name...

Sorry for bad English.
AndrewSimon
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Postby AndrewSimon; Sat May 10, 2008 11:33 am

How about a compressor???

:)
suncica2222
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Postby suncica2222; Sat May 10, 2008 11:49 am

there are compressors in GR,but they don't give enough sustain....
Lunch Money
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13194 posts since 29 Sep, 2003, from Ottawa, Canada

Postby Lunch Money; Sat May 10, 2008 12:49 pm

The only way to get the kind of sustain you probably want is to install a sustainer on your guitar. No effect will be able to physically keep your strings ringing longer.
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robogone
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21638 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Gone

Postby robogone; Sat May 10, 2008 1:04 pm

As long as you're not playing staccato, it can help somewhat to put a delay at the end of the signal chain. If you set the parameters right the delay is not that noticeable but it will give the effect of sustain.
Optomadic
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Postby Optomadic; Sat May 10, 2008 1:55 pm

S cc sustain?

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Lunch Money
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Postby Lunch Money; Sat May 10, 2008 1:57 pm

surely a cc sustain is for MIDI? ;)
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suncica2222
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Postby suncica2222; Sat May 10, 2008 2:47 pm

Lunch Money wrote:The only way to get the kind of sustain you probably want is to install a sustainer on your guitar. No effect will be able to physically keep your strings ringing longer.


yes,I were thinking that way too....until I've played dry guitar samples from the net,that were recorded by professionals whit expensive gear ,and they had not enough sustain as well
shamann
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Postby shamann; Sat May 10, 2008 3:19 pm

AndrewSimon wrote:How about a compressor???


What compressor would you suggest? What compressor would sustain like, for example, a Boss CS?
MitchK1989
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2644 posts since 2 Mar, 2006

Postby MitchK1989; Sat May 10, 2008 3:32 pm

suncica2222 wrote:
Lunch Money wrote:The only way to get the kind of sustain you probably want is to install a sustainer on your guitar. No effect will be able to physically keep your strings ringing longer.


yes,I were thinking that way too....until I've played dry guitar samples from the net,that were recorded by professionals whit expensive gear ,and they had not enough sustain as well


... And they probably weren't using a sustainer. Not many people do.
Sickle
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Postby Sickle; Sat May 10, 2008 3:35 pm

shamann wrote:
AndrewSimon wrote:How about a compressor???


What compressor would you suggest? What compressor would sustain like, for example, a Boss CS?


Guitar pedal compressors like the BOSS CS-2(best one I've used for this effect) are going to give you sustain. VST compressors aren't made to do the same thing as well. If you want more sustain on your guitar, also consider checking and maybe raising your pickups, or the individual magnets, but watch out for overtones from the unselected pickup.

What kind of guitar are you playing?
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MitchK1989
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Postby MitchK1989; Sat May 10, 2008 3:40 pm

Sickle wrote:
shamann wrote:
AndrewSimon wrote:How about a compressor???


What compressor would you suggest? What compressor would sustain like, for example, a Boss CS?


Guitar pedal compressors like the BOSS CS-2(best one I've used for this effect) are going to give you sustain. VST compressors aren't made to do the same thing as well. If you want more sustain on your guitar, also consider checking and maybe raising your pickups, or the individual magnets, but watch out for overtones from the unselected pickup.

What kind of guitar are you playing?


Raising your pickups increases output, but it also increases magnetic pull on the strings, which results in LESS sustain...

And compressors will still stop the sound when your strings stop vibrating... Only a sustainer can actually keep the strings vibrating for a longer period of time, or feedback (like, from a real amp). If you're using software amp stuff, you owe it to yourself to try out a sustainer.
Sickle
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Postby Sickle; Sat May 10, 2008 4:16 pm

MitchK1989 wrote:
Sickle wrote:
shamann wrote:
AndrewSimon wrote:How about a compressor???


What compressor would you suggest? What compressor would sustain like, for example, a Boss CS?


Guitar pedal compressors like the BOSS CS-2(best one I've used for this effect) are going to give you sustain. VST compressors aren't made to do the same thing as well. If you want more sustain on your guitar, also consider checking and maybe raising your pickups, or the individual magnets, but watch out for overtones from the unselected pickup.

What kind of guitar are you playing?


Raising your pickups increases output, but it also increases magnetic pull on the strings, which results in LESS sustain...


True, but if the magnets are way down there's not enough output..

Chicken, egg, chicken, egg..
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bduffy
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Postby bduffy; Sat May 10, 2008 5:06 pm

the closest I could get to a BOSS CS-2 sound (best pedal ever!) with plugins was with the Waves RenComp; you can really pound the shit out of a signal and get a nice sustain from it. Probably not of much use to you, though. :(
suncica2222
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Postby suncica2222; Sun May 11, 2008 2:31 am

Sickle wrote:Guitar pedal compressors like the BOSS CS-2(best one I've used for this effect) are going to give you sustain.



bduffy wrote:the closest I could get to a BOSS CS-2 sound (best pedal ever!



what is so great whit CS2? What's wrong with CS3?



But have you consider another problem...it's wrong to put compressor before noise gate (which is inevitably in GR) ???

So do I have to put hardware noise gate before sustainer?
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