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MSEG and a way of using it
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mkastrup
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:24 pm reply with quote
All know about arranger keyboards with auto bass string and stuff, well something similar can be done in Zebra using MSEG envelopes. In general you just have MSEG control the pitch of various OSC's and use one MSEG dedicated to the attack envelope for adding pluck motion. Its kinda like an poly Arpeggio but with more control by the user.

In the following example i used octave shifts and +7 shifts in pitch.

Now the fun part is that we are not bound by tempo like we are using arpeggio. In the demo i'm playing 4/4 3/4 and glissando and its all the same patch just different playstyle.

Give MSEG a go if you get bored of creating static patches. Have it control osc pitch and envelopes.

The demo might sound like i'm using all my fingers and toes but its really dead simple which the picture will show you.

Open up the picture, look at the note progression and then turn on the mp3 and then hear how those notes comes out with the help from MSEG:

Picture: http://www.xsynth.com/download/z2msegfun.png

MP3: http://www.xsynth.com/demos/MK_Z2msegfun.mp3

Have fun Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:55 pm reply with quote
Nice!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:11 pm reply with quote
Lovely* Love

*searching for this patch to have a real close look at it
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:14 pm reply with quote
Great that. Really MSEG's at work are a bit of an enigma for me. I mean i can get em to do something...but nowhere near as defined and 'present' as in Michael's demonstration. I'd sure as hell love to get to that level though - nice work!

Practice i guess.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:36 pm reply with quote
red37 wrote:
I'd sure as hell love to get to that level though - nice work!

Practice i guess.


michael is just pulling your leg. He's really the harpist for the berlin philharmonic, handpicked and nurtured by karajan himself when he was just a babe
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:44 pm reply with quote
If I had the skills in Michael's weakest pinky I would walk around smiling all the time and people would wonder what I was up to.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:00 pm reply with quote
billstei wrote:
If I had the skills in Michael's weakest pinky ...


if only it was just about skill
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:01 pm reply with quote
OMG... really, really good Shit!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:17 pm reply with quote
OK,

now your just showing off!!

HiHi

hats off to you again Sir!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:49 pm reply with quote
Cool! Could we get the preset(s) please? Here's a patch I did about a month ago using MSEG's to pitch. No fancy Mp3 though. Very Happy
http://teksonik.googlepages.com/SyKelex-3-Tek.h2p
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:23 pm reply with quote
even the creator of the instrument is impressed. Like I thought when I bought zebra mainly because of mk's presets and demos, I think he is using alien technology....
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mkastrup
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:04 pm reply with quote
Heh heh you guys are funny HiHi but thx for the comments Smile

Teksonik did provide some answers with his preset and since its more easy to grasp i decided to make some adjustments to it so his preset would be more like the example i produced.

The most flexible pitch alterings are octaves and 7th's when using MSEG.

If you are having trouble adjusting MSEG to the right pitch then right click MSEG and choose value snap 12 also make sure the MOD on an OSC should be set to 12.

Always leave one MSEG for the plucky thing. This one is used for Volume (VCA) and Filter (VCF) envelopes.

http://www.xsynth.com/download/SyKelex-3-Tek2.zip

Once you get the idea it can be used in many ways. I use the technique alot in my new ambient patches. Its just at a much slower tempos.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:07 pm reply with quote
mkastrup wrote:
The most flexible pitch alterings are octaves and 7th's when using MSEG.


Clarification: By "7ths" I guess you mean "intervals of seven semitones" (in other words, you're recommending octaves and fifths) -- ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:26 pm reply with quote
wowee zowee!
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mkastrup
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:31 pm reply with quote
PaulSC wrote:
mkastrup wrote:
The most flexible pitch alterings are octaves and 7th's when using MSEG.


Clarification: By "7ths" I guess you mean "intervals of seven semitones" (in other words, you're recommending octaves and fifths) -- ?


Yep Smile

Stay within Octaves, +7 and -5 semitones, it should produce something pentatonic scale like no matter how you play or mix it.

Also make it more interesting with odd time scale for each MSEG. Have one run 4 beats, one run 3 beats and perhaps have another run 7 beats.

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