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Would you buy our products if they came on USB Thumb drives
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Would you buy our products if they came on USB Thumb drives?
16 GB would add $50 to my order - that's fine
7%
 7%  [3]
32 GB would add $100 to my order - that's fine
0%
 0%  [0]
Nope, I only like downloading
65%
 65%  [25]
Hard drives are great
5%
 5%  [2]
DVDs are the way I would rather stay
13%
 13%  [5]
None of the above - my answer below
7%
 7%  [3]
Total Votes : 38

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:39 am reply with quote
We are looking into the lower cost, higher reliability and much easier to deal with USB thumb drives over DVDs or hard drives. That means no more compressed anything - just copy from the thumb sticks and get to work. Plus, you get a 16GB or 32GB thumb stick as an added bonus.

However, you would have to purchase either the 16 bit or 24 bit library - both would not be included on the thumb drives. The download option would still be available at all times.

The question is, if you wanted to buy PRIZM and needed it shipped, would you consider it purchasing a Thumb Drive option?

Let me be perfectly clear here. This entire poll is for people who want to buy PRIZM and must have it SHIPPED.

The download option is here to stay, so those of you that want to download, nothing has changed.

This is only to see if Thumb Drive media is a popular choice or not.

This DOES NOT include the price of PRIZM itself - this is just a SHIPPING OPTION.

Thank you for your answers.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:48 am reply with quote
Good idea, but too expensive IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:54 am reply with quote
I selected "download only" largely because I am in Canada and usually need to tack at least 15-20% onto the price whenever I order physical items (exchange, customs fees, local taxes, shipping).
I also haven't evolved in my thinking to the point that I would feel comfortable using a thumb drive as an archival backup. Are they really "stable" enough for this purpose?
I suppose if the download option were ever removed, I would choose thumb drive over HD or DVD though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:01 am reply with quote
Chester,

I feel that thumb drives are plenty stable and reliable to copy data to and then copy data from.

I am not talking about using the core library off the thumb drives, they are simply a replacement for DVDs or hard drives.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:07 am reply with quote
streifentier wrote:
Good idea, but too expensive IMO.


Expense is translated directly from what the market is currently offering.

A standard 16GB thumb drive goes for about $35 - $80 USD on a popular low-cost website. We figure $50 because we buy them for around $40 and $10 for labor (copying the data to the drive). The 16-bit library will fit on this drive - a 8GB drive is simply too small.

A standard 32GB thumb drive goes for about $70 - $125 USD on that same website (and most other online retailers are comparable). We figure $100 because we buy them for around $80 and $20 for labor (copying the data to the drive). The 24-bit library will fit on this drive - a 16GB drive is too small.

When the cost of media goes down, the prices that we charge will directly reflect that trend.

Overall, I feel these prices are more than fair.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:15 am reply with quote
No, there is higher chance I'd buy your products if they were for Mac.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:24 am reply with quote
Karmacomposer wrote:
streifentier wrote:
Good idea, but too expensive IMO.


Expense is translated directly from what the market is currently offering.

A standard 16GB thumb drive goes for about $35 - $80 USD on a popular low-cost website. We figure $50 because we buy them for around $40 and $10 for labor (copying the data to the drive). The 16-bit library will fit on this drive - a 8GB drive is simply too small.

A standard 32GB thumb drive goes for about $70 - $125 USD on that same website (and most other online retailers are comparable). We figure $100 because we buy them for around $80 and $20 for labor (copying the data to the drive). The 24-bit library will fit on this drive - a 16GB drive is too small.

When the cost of media goes down, the prices that we charge will directly reflect that trend.

Overall, I feel these prices are more than fair.

Mike


So to be clear, do those prices include the cost of the samples or are you quoting price for just the drives + labour there ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:39 am reply with quote
Chester Desmond wrote:
I selected "download only" largely because I am in Canada and usually need to tack at least 15-20% onto the price whenever I order physical items (exchange, customs fees, local taxes, shipping).


I am in the exact same boat as Chester...also in Canada. Still have to deal with the exchange rate, but it is not too bad right now. It is mainly the duty/taxes that really hit the hardest!

Still much prefer the download version myself!

Terry.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:06 am reply with quote
I think it is a great idea as an option, and not a requirement!

However: After purchasing PRIZM from you and downloading BOTH versions, I only then realised what a foolish notion it had been to assume that I could run the 24bit Version or a combination of 16 and 24bit. If I had purchased the 24bit delivery without having had a chance to test it on my own system first, I'd be pretty pissed about the waiting around, and paying all that delivery and tax for nothing. The Download option would still be available (which is good) but . . . it would seem to be a consolation prize for a looser!

I rarely get anything shipped anyway. The costs of doing so are generally, too prohibitive. I do make exceptions to that 'rule' on occasion, but not very often! In a sense my opinion then is not entirely relevant I guess!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:20 am reply with quote
Seems silly to me. If I want a 16GB thumb drive then I'll just go out and buy one. I don't need to pay extra for something I don't need. Downloading is preferred, but DVD's are fine too. This is just a gimmick. Sonic Charge also has the option of ordering Microtonic on a key. Wonder how they're doing with that?

As the previous user said, I'm also in Canada and we get charged duty and sometimes brokerage for physical products entering the country, so this option would not be preferable for us.

This is just more landfill.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:35 am reply with quote
Acid Mitch wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:
streifentier wrote:
Good idea, but too expensive IMO.


Expense is translated directly from what the market is currently offering.

A standard 16GB thumb drive goes for about $35 - $80 USD on a popular low-cost website. We figure $50 because we buy them for around $40 and $10 for labor (copying the data to the drive). The 16-bit library will fit on this drive - a 8GB drive is simply too small.

A standard 32GB thumb drive goes for about $70 - $125 USD on that same website (and most other online retailers are comparable). We figure $100 because we buy them for around $80 and $20 for labor (copying the data to the drive). The 24-bit library will fit on this drive - a 16GB drive is too small.

When the cost of media goes down, the prices that we charge will directly reflect that trend.

Overall, I feel these prices are more than fair.

Mike


So to be clear, do those prices include the cost of the samples or are you quoting price for just the drives + labour there ?


No, that is only for the media that PRIZM is shipped with.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:37 am reply with quote
It seems to me that releasing software on thumb drives would create legal issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:40 am reply with quote
Here is what I added above:

The question is, if you wanted to buy PRIZM and needed it shipped, would you consider it purchasing a Thumb Drive option?

Let me be perfectly clear here. This entire poll is for people who want to buy PRIZM and must have it SHIPPED.

The download option is here to stay, so those of you that want to download, nothing has changed.

This is only to see if Thumb Drive media is a popular choice or not.

This DOES NOT include the price of PRIZM itself - this is just a SHIPPING OPTION.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:41 am reply with quote
RyanG wrote:
It seems to me that releasing software on thumb drives would create legal issues.


WHAT?

What are you talking about? Whether I sell PRIZM on DVDs, a hard drive or a thumb drive LEGALLY does not matter at all.

I own the rights to the library since I created it.

Please explain if you have some amazing legal insight on Thumb Drive usage the rest of us are simply not aware of.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:46 am reply with quote
Nevermind.
In my mind I was thinking of problems that might rise with people accidentally overwriting the program and sample data on the flash drive (even though it would technically be their fault), but then I realized that's no different than releasing data on a hard drive.
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